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Finis · Post by **Finis** » 06 Jan 2011, 17:13

This is for comments and discussion of the January 2011 MMC.

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 06 Jan 2011, 17:17

Comment below:
Great subject this Month Finis! I'm experienced at this one.
Put me behind the wheel of a boat and I'll always find those rocks...

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 06 Jan 2011, 17:25

Hey were not going down with the sinking ship

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 06 Jan 2011, 18:21

Count me in with the Titanic a project I alread collected all information material for and the Blueprints but never had that last reason to do it
I must do it now..
Peter

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 06 Jan 2011, 18:35

Steinie wrote:Comment below:
Great subject this Month Finis! I'm experienced at this one.
Put me behind the wheel of a boat and I'll always find those rocks...

Sounds familar! my old man managed to ground a boat on the Norfolk Broads 10 minutes after boarding the damn thing, no mean feat so I'm told, spent the next 4 hours waiting for the tide to come in (tide = about 4inches difference but enough)

oh edit
I might give it a go

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 06 Jan 2011, 19:12

GR8 topic Finis

And you didn't specify what KIND of ship either, which makes the possibilities SOOOooo much varied

Count me in

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 06 Jan 2011, 20:27

Oh I am in. I already got an idea!

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 06 Jan 2011, 20:56

That was quick. Eight million contestants already.

Glad to see Nigec and RJeff.

Steinie wrote:Comment below:

Ha ha! The MMC post was a little formal looking. I did the post after working on legalese for a Terms of Service page.

pugman 1 wrote:Hey were not going down with the sinking ship

I imagine a picture with Roman on the tugboat trueSpace as it is about to be run over by battleship Microsoft.

Rayman. The Titanic? That's ambitious!

Theuns. Yeah, regular ships, spaceships, sail powered ice boats on skates, metaphors about your mother-in-law's visit, ...

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 06 Jan 2011, 22:52

Finis wrote:
Rayman. The Titanic? That's ambitious!
, ...

Got 4 of 16 hull curves already..... the most difficult part is getting the blueprints and everything together.....
i will be using clip mapping again so all the windows and railing and everything is not real geometry....
Peter

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 07 Jan 2011, 01:39

Leave it to Peter to pick the big projects. He has a knack for that, but he pulls them off!

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 07 Jan 2011, 10:11

clip mapping? what is that Rayman?

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 07 Jan 2011, 13:15

I can't remember how its done in TS but in Thea you add a black n white image, or greyscale or with a alpha channel into the clipping channel, anything black doesn't render, plain white will and anything else goes on the grey brightness

I think there's some pre made material for wire mesh in Truespace.
But its a real timesaver, if you have a wire mesh fence or railings that don't need to detailed its a godsend.. or you can use displacement to get some curves

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 07 Jan 2011, 13:40

yup good explanation !
see also these elements on the side of the road they arent real geometry...
vi ... 640#p13640"
Peter

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 11 Jan 2011, 13:34

Ahhh, alpha masks on the model side, got it...

Would really like to see how you do the windows and railings with clip mapping, Rayman...

spacekdet · Post by **spacekdet** » 15 Jan 2011, 17:08

Check out this diorama artist.
Especially this one.

Wishing I could get in on this MMC but the renderbeast is still dead.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 15 Jan 2011, 20:26

Wish you could do a shipwreck too Spacekdet. Welcome aboard Leon.

I won't have time to make one but I did get an idea that I'll do someday.

Lots of quality models. JamesMC has a whole fleet!

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 16 Jan 2011, 04:00

Hey JamesMc, your ships are getting better and better!
Nice job.

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 16 Jan 2011, 04:49

Yeah nice one James!

Math Path · Post by **Math Path** » 16 Jan 2011, 09:57

Hey JamesMc,
I liked "The Rolling Sands" on "The Ponderous Foot.". This picture invokes quite specific steampunk impressions. I love steampunk. I think it's one of the fewest way to make technics artsy. (of course if there is more steam than punk

)

jamesmc · Post by **jamesmc** » 16 Jan 2011, 17:30

Thanks all for the compliments. Perhaps this month I'll be allowed in the final vote.

Was going to do my usual warped drawing, but couldn't see making the whole board room in a Ship's Accident Investigation board work in my mind. So, I'll just put the concept cartoon here.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 24 Jan 2011, 19:50

I have a real big problem with this months MMC the only relative that is left in my fammily (my auntie) is very ill and i got to spend the next few days in hospital with her for a lot of tests.. so i think i cant make the deadline but i will finish my wip at a later time...
will come back as soon as I can !
Peter

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 24 Jan 2011, 19:58

I don't see a problem. We will come and get you if you don't go spend time with your aunt.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 24 Jan 2011, 20:17

rjeff wrote:I don't see a problem. We will come and get you if you don't go spend time with your aunt.

I would have loved to finish that on time but i dont have the will to model right now either.. she had cancer 15 years ago and
survived that and now she has a lump on the other side so I´m realy at my limits now...realy sad

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 24 Jan 2011, 20:20

RAYMAN wrote:
rjeff wrote:I don't see a problem. We will come and get you if you don't go spend time with your aunt.
I would have loved to finish that on time but i dont have the will to model right now either.. she had cancer 15 years ago and
survived that and now she has a lump on the other side so I´m realy at my limits now...realy sad

I had an Aunt with cancer too, she made it! I hope yours do too and even two times!

All the Best !

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 24 Jan 2011, 20:55

Ray I will be sure to keep her in my prayers. Right now your strenght will be hers.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 24 Jan 2011, 21:02

Thanks guys !
Peter

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 25 Jan 2011, 01:02

I wish your aunt the best. I hope the lump is nothing important.

MMC's and 3D and such aren't important. Your aunt is. You take care of her.

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 25 Jan 2011, 11:52

I agree, take care Peter. We will be here when you return.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 26 Jan 2011, 23:21

The January 2011 MMC poll will start some time tomorrow Jan. 27. I am in time zone GMT-7, Mountain Time, and I'll do it around 10am my time. I'll look for last minute entries and updates but I advise you to post in the main thread to be sure it is found.

To be sure no one is left out I'm posting the MMC January 2011 entries here for verification. Let me know if you have an entry not listed or if the title (for the poll) or image is not correct.

JamesMC:

Shipwrecked in the Dardunian Sewagus Galaxy
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2268 ... nspace.jpg

Somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8596 ... gship2.jpg

Bermuda Triangle 2
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5054 ... kbryce.jpg

The Rolling Sands vs. The Ponderous Foot
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/471/ ... scene1.jpg

LeonRegis:

Caravel
download/file.php?id=6014&mode=view

MikomDude:

I spy with my little eye
do ... &mode=view

Steinie:

Paper Ship
do ... &mode=view

RJeff:

Shipwreck in a Bottle
do ... &mode=view

Math Path:

Sunken Treasure
do ... &mode=view

Theuns:

Uninsured Shipwreck
do ... &mode=view

P-Dose not Torpedoes
do ... &mode=view

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 27 Jan 2011, 00:19

Rendering 4X, in 1 hour I think (800x600)

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 27 Jan 2011, 01:04

Actually I saw something wrong I had to start all over again and I need to sleep because I'll do something important tomorrow, sorry guys, just will send tomorrow (by the morning), so if you could wait.

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 27 Jan 2011, 03:17

That's all I could do for today, 320x240 1h to render 70%

So it will take a lot of time tomorrow, I'll post only on the afternoon!

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 27 Jan 2011, 11:24

I have no problem waiting for this if others agree.

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 27 Jan 2011, 11:47

no hurry... we can wait.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 27 Jan 2011, 15:58

No problem. I'll start the poll when Leon's new picture is ready or tonight (my time) if it isn't ready yet. I have work of unknown duration later today so it might be evening before I check.

Leon, you said 4X anti-aliasing? It would be faster, of course, with less and might look good. A trick is to render larger with 1X and then shrink the image in Paint Shop or Photo Shop or otherwise post process it for smoothing.

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:06

I always use Adaptive anti-aliasing... does it really make that much difference to go to 4x or bigger?

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:31

I find that high levels of AA blur the textures so the "grain" is missing. Sometimes 2X is better than adaptive but I seldom need 3X or more. The Feature Following AA (on the workspace icons where depth of field is) might be interesting but the times I played with it made really long render times.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 28 Jan 2011, 01:29

The end draws near. I'll start the poll before bed tonight (about 4 hours) or sooner if Leon's new picture appears. If no new picture is available then I'll use his current one and replace it with the new when available if he wants that. Vote changing will be allowed.

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 28 Jan 2011, 11:27

kewl

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 30 Jan 2011, 18:10

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