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bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 03 Aug 2010, 15:04

I'm trying to get the walls in the Caligari architectural tutorial to sweep to 8.5 ft. Only some of the walls in this dxf file will sweep. Any suggestions besides retracing the walls with the add curve tool. Thanks!

brent kjernisted · Post by **brent kjernisted** » 03 Aug 2010, 17:52

Is this a problem with 64 bit systems and would it sweep fine in a 32 bit system? Is there a way of saving it in vecad and then importing it back into truespace that would work?

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 03 Aug 2010, 18:02

I don't know that we have enough info on what you are trying to do to be helpful...

I have not followed the architecture tut for a couple of years so I don't recall all the steps you are trying to follow.

Could you offer a little more detail please?

spacekdet · Post by **spacekdet** » 03 Aug 2010, 18:25

Save it as a COB in tS and then try flipping the faces.
They sometimes import with the normals flipped.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 03 Aug 2010, 18:38

kjernisted, brent kjernisted... Are you registered multiple times?

brent kjernisted · Post by **brent kjernisted** » 03 Aug 2010, 19:12

Thanks for all the replies! Marcel I should have asked how to retrieve my password but I had an old email address that was deleted without any forewarning and I lost all my emails. I guess I was in ahrray and figured the best way to solve the problem was toopen a new account. If you could delete my bkjernisted account I'll continue to use the brent kjernisted account. Sorry and thanks!

brent kjernisted · Post by **brent kjernisted** » 03 Aug 2010, 20:11

v3rd3 there is a dxf file that comes with the project for the first floor. It is to be swept to a height of 8.5 feet. When you sweep it it sweeps correctly in some places and in others the top of the dxf file sweeps to the initial height of the sweep but when rendered there are no walls created where top of the dxf file sweeps to the initial height. I tried turning the file into a cob file and then reversed the normals and swept the result but this only freezes truespace and I need to log off. Could someone try this and let me know what their results are? Thanks!

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 03 Aug 2010, 20:27

can you post some pics to show what you mean? and maybe upload the dxf file here if it isn't too big?

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 03 Aug 2010, 22:46

Theuns the dxf file is the first dxf file in the project files for the architectural tutorial from the caligari website. I'll try to post some pictures if I can figure it out. Thanks!

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 03 Aug 2010, 23:46

theuns the dxf file is too big.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 04 Aug 2010, 01:11

Before you Load the arch_13_downstairs.dxf, select DXF as File Type and then Settings.
Try loading the file with these options selected. Seem to work for me in tS7.61 Beta8.

brent kjernisted · Post by **brent kjernisted** » 04 Aug 2010, 03:57

trueBlue it worked this time but my measurements seem out of wack. My location z measurement says .5 feet and if I set my z height to 8.5 feet the proportions are going to be way out of wack. Is there an update to fix this? Thanks for your help so far!

brent kjernisted · Post by **brent kjernisted** » 04 Aug 2010, 04:25

Here is a picture with my z height set to 8.5 ft.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 04 Aug 2010, 08:20

It looks like the scale of the dxf file is in inches. So import with object import scale set to feet and then multiply the x and y size values in the object info panel by 12 to get it back up to actual feet.

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 05 Aug 2010, 16:28

Clinton and anybody else having trouble setting the dimensions of the house, watch the videos and you will see the dimensions needed. I am having a problem though! When I go to set the Z size or thickness of the wall section for the window I am not able to set it to 0.400 feet. Can someone help me with this? The cob part name is 7,1_1.cob.

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 05 Aug 2010, 17:32

I've found the solution to my problem! Get out of extrude mode after the 1st extrude. Then click on the object so you have the controls around the whole object. Enter your dimensions for the thickness of the wall and hit enter. As well use "Window surround plane .cob." This file already has the correct dimensions except for thickness.

spacekdet · Post by **spacekdet** » 05 Aug 2010, 19:19

Ah, yep. The Object info panel displays the size/rot/scale of the currently selected element.
As you found out, it could be the whole object, or just whatever you have selected via point edit.

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 09 Aug 2010, 02:00

As you can see in the attached photo the selector cage is only around half of the roof and I,m not able to get it to go around the other half to extend it over the left hand side of the house. How do I get it out of this mode, extend the left side of the roof and then raise the ridge of the roof? Thanks?

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 09 Aug 2010, 11:00

Try multi-selecting by holding down the CTRL key. That should change
the selector cage I believe.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 09 Aug 2010, 15:33

Model side:

Holding CTRL or Shift while clicking individual objects adds or removes them from a multi-object selection. Operations like scale, rotate, and move effect the whole selection as if it was one object.

You can also select multiple objects with a rubber rectangle by holding the CTRL key and holding the mouse button.

You can raise the roof ridge in point edit mode. Select just the edge or edges that make the ridge, select move on the point edit menu, and move the edge up. Try limiting the movement to vertical by using the XYZ buttons to activate only the appropriate axis. Then put the XYZ's back or it will get confusing later.

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 09 Aug 2010, 17:38

In order to get the cage where it is in the photo I had to " arrange the roofs axis so they sit level with the bottom of the object but centered in Xand Y." This can be seen in video 14 of the architectural tutorial. I have not tried the above two suggestions but will in two hours. I just cannot seem to deselect the cage on the right hand side of the roof. Thanks!

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 09 Aug 2010, 21:33

All I had to do to get rid of the selector cage was restart Truespace. Now I am having trouble drawing up the ridge. Only one side will draw up and not straight up. Do I use the object move control and highlight Z so the grey area is larger or do I use toggle navigation using Z axis? I see now that I'm supposesd to be using the point editing move tools. Do I need to glue the two roof halves together?

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 09 Aug 2010, 22:34

How do I go about lining up the sides of the building so the textures can be applied correctly?

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 10 Aug 2010, 05:58

There is a technique shown at some point in the tutorial where you create a couple of small cubes to the scene, aligning the appropriate faces with the wall, you then select the wall and the matching faces of the 2 cubes, apply the texture and it works.....

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 17 Aug 2010, 16:10

When I go to extrude the roof in the z axis it extrudes straight up but when I extrude the half roof it extrudes at an angle to the left lookingfrom the right side. How do I fix this problem? Thanks!

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 17 Aug 2010, 20:22

I believe that extrude follows the direction of the surface normal. I think the easiest way to deal with this is to either move the face resulting from the extrude or to adjust the edges or vertices on the edge planes.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 17 Aug 2010, 22:23

If sweep tool is what you're using you can right click to open the options and set the values for x,y and z to 0. When you sweep the face doesn't move and then you can move it in world space.

bkjernisted · Post by **bkjernisted** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:24

Thankyou clintonman and v3rd3! I used clintonman's method but had to turn segments to zero.

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 19 Aug 2010, 08:07

If you are choosing between Clintonman's solutions and mine, I can comfortably be ignored.

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