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O.k. guys.....
I have a computer that has a ssd with the operating system on it and it also has a hdd drive that i have all my pictures, videos, And programs on it.
I know that i can pull the hard drive out , put it into an external case and copy files to another computer. I wanted to know if there is a way i can wipe the ssd without wiping the hdd. I was hoping to NOT have to pull out the hdd.

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My computer will not fully start up. I have been trying the istructions for win 10 to boot into safe mode.(turning the computer off and on 3 times in a row. Wich is the dumbest F*****g thing in the world.) This is just not working out for me. My computer "broke" while shutting down TS Unofficial beta. "Funny Enough"

There is something in my UEFI menu that mentions ssd safe delete. or something like that. If i use that will it also wipe the hdd?
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couldn't you just open the case and unplug the hdd to keep it safe.
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Simple just open the case..pull the plug from the hdd and wipe the ssd! You dont have to remove it!
Once you have your computer back ..you can then use your hd!
You just have to tell the computer that it boots from ssd as your primary boot disc in bios and the hd is just additional!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
that was funny! you typed the same thing simultaniosly! :lol:
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HDD
-- Protect. Like Stan said. Just unplug it.
-- Transfer. Two possibilities no external case needed:
---- 1. Permanent move: install the HDD in the second computer.
---- 2. Copy contents to second computer: temporarily plug the HDD into the second computer, copy, return to original computer.

WIPE SSD
-- If installing a new OS, not an upgrade, select format in the install options.
-- If wiping for privacy and security try https://www.bleachbit.org/features
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First off...... Thank you all for your replies.

I just ordered a transfer kit off of amazon. I think i will do a transfer first. Then i will try the {unplug the hdd while keeping the ssd hooked up.} just so i can experience that too.

When i first bought the computer i made a restore disk(thumb drive) But i guess i have to download a windows install? Put it on a thumb drive and install? Then use my recovery disk to install the drivers and bloatware. Does this sound correct? Trying to find a complete video on how todo it.

this is some of the errors i get when it goes through the repair and crash cycle.

SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED and KERNEL MODE EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED
PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED AREA
DRIVER IRQL NOT LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO

Wondering if i'll have to buy another ssd. I hope not... corona took all of my money... lol :roll:
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I had the Page Fault in non paged area error messages.
Went away after I re-seated all RAM sticks and hard drive cables.
Happy Hunting.
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I had the Page Fault in non paged area error messages.
Went away after I re-seated all RAM sticks and hard drive cables.
Happy Hunting.
I'll give that a try. thanks.

p.s.
i thought the Hillary joke was funny.
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As others say, no need to transfer anything if you need to reinstall.

Btw: to check or to do other stuff when you cannot boot up - its good to have a bootable DVD or a flashdrive with linux (try ubuntu, that is very common).
Point is, that linux install disks dont need to install - they are able to run in "live" mode. So you can boot a usable system just from the DVD without any need to install anything or change anything in your hard drives or PC overall. It just runs from RAM. Just download and burn the DVD or use Rufus tool for creating a bootable USB drive.

If everything in the Linux works with no problems, its not the hardware issue and you just need to reinstall windows. Again use Rufus tool to make a bootable USB drive of Windows which can be downloaded from MS website or burn it on a DVD. Unplug your mechanical drive and just boot the windows installation media. No need to wipe anything. You can format the drive during windows install. After install, you will be able to download your drivers, no need to get them beforehand. Basic things like LAN adapter usually works.

Its always better to hand your PC over to somebody that knows what to do btw :)
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@bitkar

thanks for the suggestions. A lot to look into there.
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A little update on my project.

I got the sata transfer cable and put it to good use. I pulled the hard drive out and got all the photo's and video's off. I tried to hook the SSD to my other computer like i did the hard drive but it said i didn't have permission to open it.

The day before i unplugged both drives and pulled the ram to see if that would help. Well..... Ummm.... now i have a blue screen and black screen of death. :shock: :oops: When i turn the computer on the screen is black and it turns off and on in a cycle.... lol

Do you think i need a new SSd? Do you think i will listen to people that actually know what they are talking about?

thanks for reading guys.
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Mr. Girty, it is time to take your computer(s) to a repair professional. At this point an in person, hands on, examination is needed.
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Hey to be fair I never said I knew what I was talking about!

I do know that it took quite a lot of pressure to get the RAM reseated and snap the locking tabs back on. Like, 'ow my fingers' kind of pressure.

SATA plug sockets on the motherboard were also numbered (boot order?) and weird things happened here when I plugged drives back in 'not in order'.
What happens when you re-attach the drive you've disconnected?
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Mr. Girty, it is time to take your computer(s) to a repair professional. At this point an in person, hands on, examination is needed.
LOL that's what my wife said. ...... and i will most likely do that when the World is not on lock down.
For the record though... I have fixed many of my computers over the years. I've replaced hard drives , Ram, graphic cards. Fixed virus.... This is just my first Blue and black screen of death.
Hey to be fair I never said I knew what I was talking about!
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SATA plug sockets on the motherboard were also numbered (boot order?) and weird things happened here when I plugged drives back in 'not in order'.
I'll look into that. I've never had 2 hard drives in one computer so i didn't know that was a thing. I did not pull wires off of the mother board. Just from the drives themselves.
What happens when you re-attach the drive you've disconnected?
One of the first things i did to my computer was unplug the hard drives and ram. that's how i got the black screen.

I'm going to order another ssd and see what happens with that. I'll keep yenz posted with my highs and my lows. :bananatyping:
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@Seppgirty I meant nothing negative about you or your compu-skills. It is that the number of possible causes is large enough that diagnosis by a hands on technician would be much more effective than remote advice. Good point about quarantine.
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@Seppgirty I meant nothing negative about you or your compu-skills.
No no. please don't think that i was offended by what you said. you are giving me sound advice. All of you are trying to help me and i appreciate all of you. :bananalove: See, loving banana. :lol:
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