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clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 21 Aug 2021, 05:06

I've been doing some experiments to try to get dimensions into workspace. First success shown above.
The white dimension in the picture is really a capture of the marker mesh that is used to create the distance feedback. It shows 17.3855. The log view shows the length of one side of the first triangle in the captured mesh 17.38548 etc.

Each of the lines in the dimension is really a 2 point polygon or a triangle with one edge of zero length so it looks like a line. The zero length edge uses the same point twice. I didn't even know that was possible in trueSpace. Each part of the numbers also use the same 2 point polygon structure.

So far the way to get the measurement is while creating a plane or using edge draw in point edit mode with distance feedback and point edit snapping. While running either tool I have a script setup through a button shortcut to capture the marker mesh that contains the dimension mesh. Then just read the points on the first triangle of the mesh to calculate the distance value.

During plane creation and after capture script is run.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 21 Sep 2022, 03:51

A new approach.

There were problems capturing the markers. It works, just not very well. The new way is to use the point selection widgets to define the end points and then move a plane mesh that looks like arrows into place. The text is a tS text object. Both the arrows and the number text are invisible parented to the object, so they move and scale with the object.

The things I want to add are:

different units - inches, mm, ft...
button to update dimension value when scaling the object or maybe some automatic adjustment
scale object based on change dimension value
dimension between 2 objects - scene dimensions
button to delete a dimension
maybe some color controls

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 01 Oct 2022, 04:04

Added units control "m, cm, mm, in, ft and ft in", might add ' and " for ft and in
Added delete button to remove the selected dimension

Might skip all the scaling dimensions stuff until I can use the tool and see if it's worth the trouble.

Next up is dimensions between objects and making it more user friendly.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 03 Oct 2022, 03:44

Did the scaling stuff after all. Choose the dimension and change it's value to uniformly scale the object or only in the direction of the dimension if it points in an axis direction.

3 things on the TODO list

rounding/precision values like 600.003 should be something like 600

scene dimensions between objects

make it not awkward to use

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 04 Oct 2022, 05:47

Added dimensions between objects
Added a control for precision - the number of decimal places in the number
Added Color control for the arrow and the text

Started making it less awkward to use.

The dimensions are anchored to the object vertices, so if any geometry is added or removed the dimensions may need to be recreated.

Next is continue making it less awkward, add a select previous button to match the select next button and organize the controls and settings into separate panels.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 04 Oct 2022, 06:21

Looking good!
Are these dimensions, widgets?
How do you add a Start & End dimension?
PE mode?
Does it support Snapping?

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 04 Oct 2022, 14:20

trueBlue wrote: 04 Oct 2022, 06:21 Looking good!
Are these dimensions, widgets?
How do you add a Start & End dimension?
PE mode?
Does it support Snapping?

The dimensions are text and mesh objects in the scene. The start and end points are defined by using the GetPointsWidget so it's from one point or collection of points to another. No snapping support.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 05 Oct 2022, 03:52

I was reviewing my notes and remembered that I had angle dimension planned. This is the start. As of now it only works for angles that face in the Z direction. I have an idea on how to fix it (fingers crossed).

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 08 Oct 2022, 05:11

Cylinder was rotated in x, y and z axes.

It worked! Angle dimensions can be applied at any orientation. That's the last mathematical piece of the puzzle to finish this thing up.

the_ant · Post by **the_ant** » 08 Oct 2022, 09:02

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 12 Oct 2022, 05:31

I almost have it to a workable state.

The todo list is pretty short.

organize the UI
refine the usage and clean the code
scene name changes will break it, need to take scene name change into account
when deleting the last dimension for an object need to remove all the dimension nodes
all dimensioned items must have unique names - maybe try to find way around it

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 12 Oct 2022, 18:17

clintonman wrote: 12 Oct 2022, 05:31 I almost have it to a workable state.

The todo list is pretty short.

organize the UI
refine the usage and clean the code
scene name changes will break it, need to take scene name change into account
when deleting the last dimension for an object need to remove all the dimension nodes
all dimensioned items must have unique names - maybe try to find way around it

Looking forward to using your Dimensions
Sounds like Flatten History maybe an issue too
If you add an exported Dimensions attribute, may be helpful in the future

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 12 Oct 2022, 18:46

trueBlue wrote: 12 Oct 2022, 18:17
clintonman wrote: 12 Oct 2022, 05:31 I almost have it to a workable state.

The todo list is pretty short.

organize the UI
refine the usage and clean the code
scene name changes will break it, need to take scene name change into account
when deleting the last dimension for an object need to remove all the dimension nodes
all dimensioned items must have unique names - maybe try to find way around it
Looking forward to using your Dimensions
Sounds like Flatten History maybe an issue too
If you add an exported Dimensions attribute, may be helpful in the future

Yep, it will lose its dimension data if you flatten history.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 13 Oct 2022, 01:12

Setback.

Further testing shows I was just lucky the angle dimension was working. So I'm scrapping the angles and starting them over from scratch.

On a positive note scene name changes won't break it anymore, put a workaround in for the unique names limitation, deleting the last dimension will clean up unneeded nodes, can recover from renaming a scene object(single object not scene dimension)

TODO:
start over with the angle dimensions
add some options for text alignment - 1) no align, 2) align with dimension, 3)face the user
clean the ui
more testing

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 14 Oct 2022, 05:15

Angle dimensions are fixed.

Now one last thing is the dimension text alignment. I got the 3 options basically working. It's all positioned correctly but it can be upside down, rotated backwards or forwards ...

Text has no alignment and they all face in the same default direction for text

Look at the user

Align with the dimension

The plan is to make the text easily editable and manually correct them when they go too wrong. Also to correct for case of text disappearing into the mesh objects.

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 16 Oct 2022, 00:46

It's all working now!

Any poorly aligned text, like the text on the left in the image, will need to be manually transformed.

TODO:

organize and make not ugly
find good default values for colors and text

If there are no show stopping bugs I hope to release it tomorrow.

the_ant · Post by **the_ant** » 16 Oct 2022, 06:04

Wow...impressive...it seems like Autocad dimensions config panel...can't wait use it...

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 16 Oct 2022, 16:40

the_ant wrote: 16 Oct 2022, 06:04 Wow...impressive...it seems like Autocad dimensions config panel...can't wait use it...

Thanks, but it won't be anywhere near CAD level of performance. It should be useful though... I hope.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 21 Oct 2022, 18:40

Yay, you released it!
Nice work Clinton!

I like the way you are doing Distance between objects with the 2D Encapsulated Dim nodes and MeasureNode
Not complaining, but I wish the Object Dimensions were done that way too

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 21 Oct 2022, 18:58

trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 18:40 Yay, you released it!
Nice work Clinton!
I like the way you are doing Distance between objects with the 2D Encapsulated Dim nodes and MeasureNode
Not complaining, but I wish the Object Dimensions were done that way too

Glad you like it.
It's not possible to add the dimensions to the inside of mesh objects because they would not be visible.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 21 Oct 2022, 21:11

Found a couple of errors

ERR Source object: ScaleByChange
Line: 42, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

ERR Source object: ScaleByChangeOne
Line: 48, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

Both scripts do not have Default values

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 21 Oct 2022, 21:46

trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 21:11 Found a couple of errors

ERR Source object: ScaleByChange
Line: 42, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

ERR Source object: ScaleByChangeOne
Line: 48, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

Both scripts do not have Default values

What is the error? What default value is needed? How to reproduce the error?

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 21 Oct 2022, 22:32

clintonman wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 21:46
trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 21:11 Found a couple of errors

ERR Source object: ScaleByChange
Line: 42, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

ERR Source object: ScaleByChangeOne
Line: 48, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

Both scripts do not have Default values

What is the error? What default value is needed? How to reproduce the error?

Not sure what happened, it is working now without errors
Off subject
After using the Default settings for a while, View & Lying, I think it is better to use Dimension & Standing
Using View & Lying in Perspective, is not as consistent
The Text angles can be crazy!

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 21 Oct 2022, 22:55

trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 22:32
clintonman wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 21:46
trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 21:11 Found a couple of errors

ERR Source object: ScaleByChange
Line: 42, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

ERR Source object: ScaleByChangeOne
Line: 48, Char: 1 Script text: var parent = Node.LinkedInputNode(firstSel, "OwnerMatrix", 0);

Both scripts do not have Default values

What is the error? What default value is needed? How to reproduce the error?
Not sure what happened, it is working now without errors
Off subject
After using the Default settings for a while, View & Lying, I think it is better to use Dimension & Standing
Using View & Lying in Perspective, is not as consistent
The Text angles can be crazy!

Cannot see standing + view at all, text not facing me.

View or standing makes no difference. They are equally consistent or inconsistent depending only on where the view is looking. It's the reason the text is selected after a dimension is created. In my testing if it was standing it would mostly be facing away from my eye. Standing would not be in improvement from my perspective.

How did you get standing plus view to even work?

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 00:26

clintonman wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 22:55
trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 22:32
clintonman wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 21:46

What is the error? What default value is needed? How to reproduce the error?
Not sure what happened, it is working now without errors
Off subject
After using the Default settings for a while, View & Lying, I think it is better to use Dimension & Standing
Using View & Lying in Perspective, is not as consistent
The Text angles can be crazy!
StandingIsWorse.jpg
Cannot see standing + view at all, text not facing me.

View or standing makes no difference. They are equally consistent or inconsistent depending only on where the view is looking. It's the reason the text is selected after a dimension is created. In my testing if it was standing it would mostly be facing away from my eye. Standing would not be in improvement from my perspective.

How did you get standing plus view to even work?

I see. I did not try Standing & View
If you select Normalize Rotation, after, it works
Would it be possible to add Normalize Rotation when using Standing & View?
I have been testing Dimension & Standing and it seems to be more consistent with Ortho Views too

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 01:36

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 00:26
clintonman wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 22:55
trueBlue wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 22:32

Not sure what happened, it is working now without errors
Off subject
After using the Default settings for a while, View & Lying, I think it is better to use Dimension & Standing
Using View & Lying in Perspective, is not as consistent
The Text angles can be crazy!
StandingIsWorse.jpg
Cannot see standing + view at all, text not facing me.

View or standing makes no difference. They are equally consistent or inconsistent depending only on where the view is looking. It's the reason the text is selected after a dimension is created. In my testing if it was standing it would mostly be facing away from my eye. Standing would not be in improvement from my perspective.

How did you get standing plus view to even work?
I see. I did not try Standing & View
If you select Normalize Rotation, after, it works
Would it be possible to add Normalize Rotation when using Standing & View?
I have been testing Dimension & Standing and it seems to be more consistent with Ortho Views too

Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying.
Dimension & Standing, I'm not seeing consistent improvement. Vertical dimension not good, If looking down or ortho top view is not good, angle on horizontal plane not good. ortho front/back/sides depends on the view, so good and bad. 3d eye down low looks good. normalize rotation improves some and makes others worse. When I say "good" and "bad" I mean most of the time, neither is 100% better in all cases.
Like I said before it all depends on where you are looking from, but you do make a good case for having it as an option. Standing up is better if the eye point isn't too high and lying is more consistent with a top down plan view. I won't bother with the normalize though, since it randomly makes things better or worse. The only case that was almost 100% bad was when I misread and thought you were talking about View and Standing.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 02:09

clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 01:36
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 00:26
clintonman wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 22:55
StandingIsWorse.jpg
Cannot see standing + view at all, text not facing me.

View or standing makes no difference. They are equally consistent or inconsistent depending only on where the view is looking. It's the reason the text is selected after a dimension is created. In my testing if it was standing it would mostly be facing away from my eye. Standing would not be in improvement from my perspective.

How did you get standing plus view to even work?
I see. I did not try Standing & View
If you select Normalize Rotation, after, it works
Would it be possible to add Normalize Rotation when using Standing & View?
I have been testing Dimension & Standing and it seems to be more consistent with Ortho Views too
Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying.
Dimension & Standing, I'm not seeing consistent improvement. Vertical dimension not good, If looking down or ortho top view is not good, angle on horizontal plane not good. ortho front/back/sides depends on the view, so good and bad. 3d eye down low looks good. normalize rotation improves some and makes others worse. When I say "good" and "bad" I mean most of the time, neither is 100% better in all cases.
Like I said before it all depends on where you are looking from, but you do make a good case for having it as an option. Standing up is better if the eye point isn't too high and lying is more consistent with a top down plan view. I won't bother with the normalize though, since it randomly makes things better or worse. The only case that was almost 100% bad was when I misread and thought you were talking about View and Standing.

Thanks, I see what you mean
I am just exploring and testing different scenarios
Was thinking of a way to run Normalize Rotation with a button from your panel or toolbar button, not necessarily incorporated in your code

I think those errors with those scripts, that I reported, needs a check for proper selection
I remember I had the Object selected
Maybe those scripts did not like the value I had, like 3.14

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 02:22

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 02:09
clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 01:36
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 00:26
I see. I did not try Standing & View
If you select Normalize Rotation, after, it works
Would it be possible to add Normalize Rotation when using Standing & View?
I have been testing Dimension & Standing and it seems to be more consistent with Ortho Views too
Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying.
Dimension & Standing, I'm not seeing consistent improvement. Vertical dimension not good, If looking down or ortho top view is not good, angle on horizontal plane not good. ortho front/back/sides depends on the view, so good and bad. 3d eye down low looks good. normalize rotation improves some and makes others worse. When I say "good" and "bad" I mean most of the time, neither is 100% better in all cases.
Like I said before it all depends on where you are looking from, but you do make a good case for having it as an option. Standing up is better if the eye point isn't too high and lying is more consistent with a top down plan view. I won't bother with the normalize though, since it randomly makes things better or worse. The only case that was almost 100% bad was when I misread and thought you were talking about View and Standing.
Thanks, I see what you mean
I am just exploring and testing different scenarios
Was thinking of a way to run Normalize Rotation with a button from your panel or toolbar button, not necessarily incorporated in your code

I think those errors with those scripts, that I reported, needs a check for proper selection
I remember I had the Object selected
Maybe those scripts did not like the value I had, like 3.14

My testing indicated normalize rotation will randomly make it better or make it worse. That would be a bad description for the button, "Normalize - do you feel lucky?"

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 04:27

Here's a copy of the changes including all the changes you made.

remove button highlight from all 6 GetDimPoints nodes
remove status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints
de-export the DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText ORA exported panel
remove all connectors except Matrix conns from DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText - DimText kept Material List conn, hard to see color on selected item in the 3d view
utility toggletextgraphic - choose first text explicitly if not a valid dimension
note line 344 added (...) before || to fix the logic for the case where there is no valid dimension to default toggle to

Code: Select all

	//select first
	if(firstSel == (scene && Node.Exists(sceneMeasureGroup)) || Node.Exists(objectMeasureGroup)) {

added text orient setting/control - Lying, Standing
creating a new dimension in view mode will always have Lying orientation

Generally, if your view point is high, use the Lying orientation and if it is lower use the Standing orientation

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 15:26

clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 04:27 Here's a copy of the changes including all the changes you made.

remove button highlight from all 6 GetDimPoints nodes
remove status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints
de-export the DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText ORA exported panel
remove all connectors except Matrix conns from DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText - DimText kept Material List conn, hard to see color on selected item in the 3d view
utility toggletextgraphic - choose first text explicitly if not a valid dimension
note line 344 added (...) before || to fix the logic for the case where there is no valid dimension to default toggle to
Code: Select all
	//select first
	if(firstSel == (scene && Node.Exists(sceneMeasureGroup)) || Node.Exists(objectMeasureGroup)) {
added text orient setting/control - Lying, Standing
creating a new dimension in view mode will always have Lying orientation

Generally, if your view point is high, use the Lying orientation and if it is lower use the Standing orientation

Thanks!
Not sure if this was present in the previous version
Notice a double line in an Angel

.
Also, a ghost widget appears when creating Angles

Also, notice a Parenting status message now that you removed the "status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints"

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 15:35

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 15:26
clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 04:27 Here's a copy of the changes including all the changes you made.

remove button highlight from all 6 GetDimPoints nodes
remove status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints
de-export the DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText ORA exported panel
remove all connectors except Matrix conns from DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText - DimText kept Material List conn, hard to see color on selected item in the 3d view
utility toggletextgraphic - choose first text explicitly if not a valid dimension
note line 344 added (...) before || to fix the logic for the case where there is no valid dimension to default toggle to
Code: Select all
	//select first
	if(firstSel == (scene && Node.Exists(sceneMeasureGroup)) || Node.Exists(objectMeasureGroup)) {
added text orient setting/control - Lying, Standing
creating a new dimension in view mode will always have Lying orientation

Generally, if your view point is high, use the Lying orientation and if it is lower use the Standing orientation
Thanks!
Not sure if this was present in the previous version
Notice a double line in an Angel
Angle.png
.
Also, a ghost widget appears when creating Angles

Also, notice a Parenting status message now that you removed the "status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints"

Do you mean the angle arms when you say double lines?

I don't see any ghost widget when creating angles. Can you show a screenshot?

I loaded the old version with status checkboxes and the parenting message still shows. Maybe you just didn't notice it before.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 15:48

clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 15:35
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 15:26
clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 04:27 Here's a copy of the changes including all the changes you made.

remove button highlight from all 6 GetDimPoints nodes
remove status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints
de-export the DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText ORA exported panel
remove all connectors except Matrix conns from DimLinear, DimAngle and DimText - DimText kept Material List conn, hard to see color on selected item in the 3d view
utility toggletextgraphic - choose first text explicitly if not a valid dimension
note line 344 added (...) before || to fix the logic for the case where there is no valid dimension to default toggle to
Code: Select all
	//select first
	if(firstSel == (scene && Node.Exists(sceneMeasureGroup)) || Node.Exists(objectMeasureGroup)) {
added text orient setting/control - Lying, Standing
creating a new dimension in view mode will always have Lying orientation

Generally, if your view point is high, use the Lying orientation and if it is lower use the Standing orientation
Thanks!
Not sure if this was present in the previous version
Notice a double line in an Angel
Angle.png
.
Also, a ghost widget appears when creating Angles

Also, notice a Parenting status message now that you removed the "status message checkbox from 3 nodes inside GetDimPoints"
Do you mean the angle arms when you say double lines?

I don't see any ghost widget when creating angles. Can you show a screenshot?

I loaded the old version with status checkboxes and the parenting message still shows. Maybe you just didn't notice it before.

You can see the double lines in the Angle pic
Two lines from the top left to bottom right
Yesterday, I was testing, setting the Cone's Matrix to see if I could get a normal location, rotation, and scale
It was hard to tell if the results made any difference

The ghost widget happens to fast to get a screenshot

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 15:59

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 15:48 ...
You can see the double lines in the Angle pic
Two lines from the top left to bottom right
...

I don't see it in the picture, don't see it here either. Can't fix if can't see it.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 16:00

Never mind, I point edited the angle to confirm it is a single line

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 16:03

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 16:00 Never mind, I point edited the angle to confirm it is a single line

OK
A trick you ca do is press the Edit Graphic button and ctrl-rmb scale to lengthen and shorten the arms of the angle.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 17:20

Edit Graphic & Toggle Text | Graphic give errors when used when nothing is selected

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 17:23

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 17:20 Edit Graphic & Toggle Text | Graphic give errors when used when nothing is selected

Probably a lot more than just that will give errors if nothing is selected

Edit:
edit graphic, all the set buttons,most of the select buttons, set units also same problem/error

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 17:44

Added a check for nothing selected.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 17:55

Were all of the changes done in the Utility Function Set?

I went through the Utility Function Set and added a check for nothing selected in most if not all of the functions
Also noticed that a lot of the items did not have a var
As an example:

Code: Select all

	var scene = Space.CurrentScene();
	var firstSel = Node.FirstSelected();

	if(!firstSel) return

	var firstSelSN = Node.ShortName(firstSel);
	var firstSelOwner = Node.Owner(firstSel);
	var firstSelOOwner = Node.Owner(firstSelOwner);

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 18:14

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 17:55 Were all of the changes done in the Utility Function Set?

I went through the Utility Function Set and added a check for nothing selected in most if not all of the functions
Also noticed that a lot of the items did not have a var
As an example:
Code: Select all
	var scene = Space.CurrentScene();
	var firstSel = Node.FirstSelected();

	if(!firstSel) return

	var firstSelSN = Node.ShortName(firstSel);
	var firstSelOwner = Node.Owner(firstSel);
	var firstSelOOwner = Node.Owner(firstSelOwner);

There may have been one other place, but I forget.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 18:26

Yep, the Dimensions Function Set

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 20:07

Why is one dimension 10.000 m and the other is 14.142 m?
Cylinder's scale is 10.000
What is trueSpace's Unit of Scale?

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 20:21

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:07 Why is one dimension 10.000 m and the other is 14.142 m?
Cylinder's scale is 10.000
What is trueSpace's Unit of Scale?
Dimensions.png

The dimension data is all messed up. It has 5 angles and one of the linear dimensions shares the same name as one of the angle dimensions.

Meters.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 20:59

clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:21
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:07 Why is one dimension 10.000 m and the other is 14.142 m?
Cylinder's scale is 10.000
What is trueSpace's Unit of Scale?
Dimensions.png
The dimension data is all messed up. It has 5 angles and one of the linear dimensions shares the same name as one of the angle dimensions.

Meters.

Thank you!
I read the data
Must delete the MeasureNode before starting over
This can be a big issue!

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 21:00

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:59
clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:21
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:07 Why is one dimension 10.000 m and the other is 14.142 m?
Cylinder's scale is 10.000
What is trueSpace's Unit of Scale?
Dimensions.png
The dimension data is all messed up. It has 5 angles and one of the linear dimensions shares the same name as one of the angle dimensions.

Meters.
Thank you!
I read the data
Must delete the MeasureNode before starting over
This can be a big issue!
Dimensions.png

Are you able to reproduce the problem?

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 21:24

clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 21:00
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:59
clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:21

The dimension data is all messed up. It has 5 angles and one of the linear dimensions shares the same name as one of the angle dimensions.

Meters.
Thank you!
I read the data
Must delete the MeasureNode before starting over
This can be a big issue!
Dimensions.png
Are you able to reproduce the problem?

I most likely deleted a couple of dimensions using the panel and did not delete the MeasureNode
It was unknown to me that there could be existing data before adding new dimensions

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 22 Oct 2022, 21:28

trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 21:24
clintonman wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 21:00
trueBlue wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 20:59
Thank you!
I read the data
Must delete the MeasureNode before starting over
This can be a big issue!
Dimensions.png
Are you able to reproduce the problem?
I most likely deleted a couple of dimensions using the panel and did not delete the MeasureNode
It was unknown to me that there could be existing data before adding new dimensions

When you delete the last dimension using the panel the measure node is also deleted automatically.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 22 Oct 2022, 21:48

Thanks, good to know

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 23 Oct 2022, 16:32

GetDimPoints/start
if(Node.SubObjectCount("/D3DView")==0) return;

Should this be moved to the beginning of the script, before resetting the PickSelect/data?
Should this also have: params.SetTerminationFlag(); ?

Widgets.ReplaceWidget('{5C9008D4-B6B3-4359-9E63-18D2FC228A6E}','/Widgets/Tools/PickVertexWidget2','Default','','');
This causes the Ghost Widget appearing
Also happens when using your Snapping tools

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 23 Oct 2022, 16:59

trueBlue wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 16:32 GetDimPoints/start
if(Node.SubObjectCount("/D3DView")==0) return;

Should this be moved to the beginning of the script, before resetting the PickSelect/data?
Should this also have: params.SetTerminationFlag(); ?

Widgets.ReplaceWidget('{5C9008D4-B6B3-4359-9E63-18D2FC228A6E}','/Widgets/Tools/PickVertexWidget2','Default','','');
This causes the Ghost Widget appearing
Also happens when using your Snapping tools

Returning early is always better, so sure move it to the top.
No params.SetTerminationFlag(); is needed for the start node

Guess we'll just have to live with ghost widgets.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 23 Oct 2022, 18:09

I know this is unorthodox
Why would a user not have a 3D View open when using this tool, or switch the 3D View to the Link Editor in the middle of using this tool

Nevertheless, to test this scenario...
Start this process by adding a Dimension, select first Point(s)
Widget is active and Point(s) are selected
Switch the 3D View to the LE and back to the 3D View
Point(s) are selected, Status message is showing, and the Widget's cursor is gone but you can still pick with the Mouse (What?!)
So, I am proposing a little more than just a return

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	var util = System.CreateDO("Clintons3D Package/Utility functions");
	var dataNode = "Scripts/CustomCommands/PickSelect/data";
	if(Node.SubObjectCount("/D3DView")==0) {
	params.SetTerminationFlag()
	util.Delete("/Widgets/Active Widgets Layer2/Markers");
	util.ClearStatusMessage(0)
	return
	}

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 23 Oct 2022, 18:21

trueBlue wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 18:09 I know this is unorthodox
Why would a user not have a 3D View open when using this tool, or switch the 3D View to the Link Editor in the middle of using this tool

Nevertheless, to test this scenario...
Start this process by adding a Dimension, select first Point(s)
Widget is active and Point(s) are selected
Switch the 3D View to the LE and back to the 3D View
Point(s) are selected, Status message is showing, and the Widget's cursor is gone but you can still pick with the Mouse (What?!)
So, I am proposing a little more than just a return
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	var util = System.CreateDO("Clintons3D Package/Utility functions");
	var dataNode = "Scripts/CustomCommands/PickSelect/data";
	if(Node.SubObjectCount("/D3DView")==0) {
	params.SetTerminationFlag()
	util.Delete("/Widgets/Active Widgets Layer2/Markers");
	util.ClearStatusMessage(0)
	return
	}

You could do that, then maybe you want to do something for all the built in tools too: add primitives, point editing, build skeleton, paint face ... None of them have safeguards against switching 3D to 2D and back.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 23 Oct 2022, 18:46

Ah, your right as usual
So, what is the point of having:
if(Node.SubObjectCount("/D3DView")==0) return;
or what would you suggest?

Another question...
Can you explain the selection of Point or Points?
I understand that you can select Mutiple Points for the First, Second, and Third
Ideally, shouldn't the Third Point be one point?

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 23 Oct 2022, 18:59

trueBlue wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 18:46 Ah, your right as usual
So, what is the point of having:
if(Node.SubObjectCount("/D3DView")==0) return;
or what would you suggest?

Another question...
Can you explain the selection of Point or Points?
I understand that you can select Mutiple Points for the First, Second, and Third
Ideally, shouldn't the Third Point be one point?

In my view there was never much point to having the 3d view check.

angle formed from the middle of 3 edges.

If the third was required to be a single point then you couldn't use the middle. Same thing if you want to use the middle of a face.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 23 Oct 2022, 20:05

Thanks!
One more...
With nothing selected, Press the Owner button

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 23 Oct 2022, 20:10

trueBlue wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 20:05 Thanks!
One more...
With nothing selected, Press the Owner button

I haven't downloaded your changes yet. Here I get the message "Selection is required", util fs, selectowner

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	if(Node.SelectedCount() == 0) {
		System.Alert("Selection is required")
		return;
	}

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 24 Oct 2022, 16:16

clintonman wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 20:10
trueBlue wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 20:05 Thanks!
One more...
With nothing selected, Press the Owner button
I haven't downloaded your changes yet. Here I get the message "Selection is required", util fs, selectowner
Code: Select all
	if(Node.SelectedCount() == 0) {
		System.Alert("Selection is required")
		return;
	}

Long story short, I had two instances of Rosetta open
One that had a Context Restored and the other that did not
I had no selection set up with no Alerts
I downloaded your latest Dimensions, and I am now in sync with yours

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 24 Oct 2022, 20:47

trueBlue wrote: 24 Oct 2022, 16:16
clintonman wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 20:10
trueBlue wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 20:05 Thanks!
One more...
With nothing selected, Press the Owner button
I haven't downloaded your changes yet. Here I get the message "Selection is required", util fs, selectowner
Code: Select all
	if(Node.SelectedCount() == 0) {
		System.Alert("Selection is required")
		return;
	}
Long story short, I had two instances of Rosetta open
One that had a Context Restored and the other that did not
I had no selection set up with no Alerts
I downloaded your latest Dimensions, and I am now in sync with yours

OK, so I just need to worry about the button. I can't find the post where you said the button image was unclear.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 24 Oct 2022, 21:06

clintonman wrote: 24 Oct 2022, 20:47
trueBlue wrote: 24 Oct 2022, 16:16
clintonman wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 20:10

I haven't downloaded your changes yet. Here I get the message "Selection is required", util fs, selectowner
Code: Select all
	if(Node.SelectedCount() == 0) {
		System.Alert("Selection is required")
		return;
	}
Long story short, I had two instances of Rosetta open
One that had a Context Restored and the other that did not
I had no selection set up with no Alerts
I downloaded your latest Dimensions, and I am now in sync with yours
OK, so I just need to worry about the button. I can't find the post where you said the button image was unclear.

I deleted the post due to updates
Here is the button image

: dimensionsButton.png (16.43 KiB) Viewed 1932 times

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 27 Oct 2022, 16:51

LOL...
YafaRay Dimensions

I forget, does YafaRay4tS have a transparent material?

clintonman · Post by **clintonman** » 27 Oct 2022, 17:04

trueBlue wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 16:51 LOL...
YafaRay Dimensions
YafaRay Dimensions.png
I forget, does YafaRay4tS have a transparent material?

It has a glass material and some have transparency parameters.

trueBlue · Post by **trueBlue** » 27 Oct 2022, 17:12

Probably, would not work as a Linear material
Off subject, this is being rendered from a C:\Rosetta installation patched with the UU9
YafaRay4tS works right out of the box

No additional setup

: YafaRay4tS works on a non - default install path.png (4.97 KiB) Viewed 1203 times

Initially, the iOpti Viewer isn't working, it shows the Display on first run

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