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RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 02 Feb 2010, 09:28

This month I will be making a subway station and whats around it.....
I hope lots of people will join me and also make an entry this month !

Peter

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 02 Feb 2010, 10:46

Can we use any software for this project?

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 02 Feb 2010, 10:49

Yes any software !
Peter

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 02 Feb 2010, 14:37

looking forward to seeing what you come up with Rayman... what software are you going to use?

have you ever use Bryce? I bought Bryce 6.3 on special the other day and want to try it out with trueSpace objects...

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 02 Feb 2010, 15:29

Theuns I´m probably going to use the same software that I used last month mostly Sketchup ,Moi 3d and Truespace
but for the renders i hope that the new Thea render engine will be finished early enough so that I can test it.
Will be free for some time while in beta.......
Peter

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 02 Feb 2010, 20:08

Thea renderer? Is that for trueSpace?

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 02 Feb 2010, 20:28

Thea is a new render engine just like Vray. Its a standalone so you can use it with Truespace.
Peter

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 02 Feb 2010, 20:32

gr8! where can I have a look at it?

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 02 Feb 2010, 20:40

Here is the homepage but there is a forum with lots of information and there will be an open beta very soon so you can test it too !
http://www.thearender.com/cms/"
Peter

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 03 Feb 2010, 11:36

alright, so we need to wait for the beta release before we can try it... do you know if there will be an announcement posted in our forum here when it gets released? Would be great to let everybody know about it...

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 03 Feb 2010, 16:03

I will do so yes !
Peter

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:27

I kept myself holding back for a little while on the project for not influenzing people on the topic because you can do a
lot of different subjects but i´m right into it now for the next 2 weeks.
here is the first stage just simple shape and no textures yet the mesh is just to test will be much denser and no corners in the
curves will be visable ....
Peter

Breech Block · Post by **Breech Block** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:53

Looks like the beginings of another corker!

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 08 Feb 2010, 21:01

Thanks Breech its a very long way to go !
Peter

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 13 Feb 2010, 03:38

Made another big step tonight i finished the model of the underground carriage....
now on to finishing the tunnels and parts of the station...
Peter

DanX · Post by **DanX** » 13 Feb 2010, 13:42

Hey Peter! Its looking good so far. Is the subway train model hollow with the interior painted on the inside and a glass texture for the outside windows? Or is the interior painted on the windows themselves?

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 13 Feb 2010, 19:03

DanX wrote:Hey Peter! Its looking good so far. Is the subway train model hollow with the interior painted on the inside and a glass texture for the outside windows? Or is the interior painted on the windows themselves?

the train is fully modeled and the inside is real geometry but very crude not much detail because you dont see the inside all to well from the outside anyway.
but its easier that way to get shots from any angle.....
Here is a render from the inside..... all modeled with Moi3d (nurbs).
Peter

tahnoak · Post by **tahnoak** » 13 Feb 2010, 21:08

Wow Peter...not much I can say that hasn't already been said. Love the look.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 13 Feb 2010, 21:43

Thanks Tahnoak ! I get a lot done this weekend !
Peter

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 13 Feb 2010, 22:41

Ok here is an update this time with some textures
there´s a lot still missing like Billboards and stationname on the wall and benches and wastebaskets.... light fixtures etc.
but i´m moving along.....
Peter

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 14 Feb 2010, 00:05

Fantastic as always Peter!
I do see something that you might consider. If you watch the Blue Ray
Special Features disk of the latest Star Trek, JJ Abrams discusses their modeling issues of
the Star Ship Enterprise and making it more realistic. The problem was/is computers draw lines perfectly straight.
They had to go in and mess up some of the lines so that it looked "man-made". The imperfections
are what make it real. That is what I notice in your preliminary work. Of course everyone has this problem
when we use 3D software. So my suggestion is for the reader of this WIP more then you Peter. I'm sure you already
know this stuff.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 14 Feb 2010, 00:11

Yes I know Steinie thanks I also need some grime mapping and grime bump mapping. but that will be a top layer the problem is there is alot of detail mising in there
still so i have to get some of the structure in first .....and sketchup onlysupports one layer I have to ad that to the final renders...
Peter

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 14 Feb 2010, 00:53

Here is an example of how to make things less perfect with a grime layer...
I will do a little bit at final render stage...

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 15 Feb 2010, 07:05

Looking good Rayman... how did you do the lighting inside the cabin? it looks very nice...

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 15 Feb 2010, 08:23

theuns wrote:Looking good Rayman... how did you do the lighting inside the cabin? it looks very nice...

Thanks Theuns its a mixture of sellfilluminated material and some pointlights...
Peter

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 15 Feb 2010, 12:52

Yes I like it better with the grime.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 15 Feb 2010, 13:43

The pavement should be rotated 90 degrees. In this way, these rigid pieces follow more the circle. Then, a little decoration to avoid monotony on the tunnel if you will do a station or some pipes between the stations...
It would be interesting to have a clean and bright station to contrast with a dirty and dark tunnel.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 15 Feb 2010, 15:34

I like Cool Powers 2 Wiggledy for making things imperfect.

Breech Block · Post by **Breech Block** » 15 Feb 2010, 19:29

Coming along very nicely Peter. Keep up the good work.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 15 Feb 2010, 21:56

Thanks Breech block ! As I said I am just starting with it and all the props are not in place yet i said that in my post above same as grime maps
I will have a second tunnel for the other direction and that has the pavement on the other side I cant make it meet up in the middle segment otherwise
still a long way to go....thats what a wip is for showing the steps rather then finished work....

tahnoak · Post by **tahnoak** » 05 Mar 2010, 10:10

Update please

compPanda · Post by **compPanda** » 17 Mar 2010, 21:37

tahnoak wrote:Update please

Yes! Please show us the train!

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 17 Mar 2010, 22:09

Maybe railway workers are on strike!

compPanda · Post by **compPanda** » 17 Mar 2010, 22:41

marcel wrote:Maybe railway workers are on strike!

Of course they are - it's the French metro....

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 18 Mar 2010, 07:25

No its getting into the finals now will be posting more at the weekend and then the finals....
but its coming along....

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 18 Mar 2010, 08:02

spyfrog wrote:
marcel wrote:Maybe railway workers are on strike!
Of course they are - it's the French metro....

I see you know how french work!

xtetra · Post by **xtetra** » 18 Mar 2010, 14:28

Looking for March's topic for the MMC. Am I just missing the post or has a topic not been chosen?

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 18 Mar 2010, 21:42

No its a 2 months contest and it ends next week....
Peter

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 21 Mar 2010, 20:42

OK the strike is over !

Here are some updates I am almost finished.....
was very complex because of fitting everything into each other. The tubeshape has to continue with the boxshape the floor has to be in one piece from tube to
floor etc.
I can now used it also for animations which I will do for the animation contest.
Here are some screenshots
Peter

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 22 Mar 2010, 00:08

a lot of work for this contest. very nice but i think we have more people on the metro in paris!

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 23 Mar 2010, 08:00

Thank you Marcel ! The reason I was so late this time was that the open beta of Thea that I wanted to test for the project wasnt finished
until a week ago ! Its a lot faster then Kerkythea on the same subjects. It takes 2 hours for an unbiased render in it while it takes over night
to clear up in Kerkythea unbiased MLT bpt. and doesnt even clear up even after that time.
Thats the bottom line of my testing in this project.
it was lots of work again much more then I have at the moment I dont know what to take up first.
the size of this station was also very large and I couldnt open it as one object in Vue so I had to split it ..
But both Kerkyand Thea had no problem with it as it takes components in Sketchup as 1 instance only... so It just loads 1 rolling staircase instead
of all of them....
Peter

compPanda · Post by **compPanda** » 23 Mar 2010, 21:53

RAYMAN wrote:Thank you Marcel ! The reason I was so late this time was that the open beta of Thea that I wanted to test for the project wasnt finished
until a week ago ! Its a lot faster then Kerkythea on the same subjects. It takes 2 hours for an unbiased render in it while it takes over night
to clear up in Kerkythea unbiased MLT bpt. and doesnt even clear up even after that time.
Thats the bottom line of my testing in this project.
it was lots of work again much more then I have at the moment I dont know what to take up first.
the size of this station was also very large and I couldnt open it as one object in Vue so I had to split it ..
But both Kerkyand Thea had no problem with it as it takes components in Sketchup as 1 instance only... so It just loads 1 rolling staircase instead
of all of them....
Peter

I like this, it looks really good.
Some questions -
are you using the professional version of Sketchup?
Are there any render engine built into that version?
Which render engine have you used? I haven't heard of this "Kerkythea" before...

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 23 Mar 2010, 22:19

spyfrog wrote:
RAYMAN wrote:Thank you Marcel ! The reason I was so late this time was that the open beta of Thea that I wanted to test for the project wasnt finished
until a week ago ! Its a lot faster then Kerkythea on the same subjects. It takes 2 hours for an unbiased render in it while it takes over night
to clear up in Kerkythea unbiased MLT bpt. and doesnt even clear up even after that time.
Thats the bottom line of my testing in this project.
it was lots of work again much more then I have at the moment I dont know what to take up first.
the size of this station was also very large and I couldnt open it as one object in Vue so I had to split it ..
But both Kerkyand Thea had no problem with it as it takes components in Sketchup as 1 instance only... so It just loads 1 rolling staircase instead
of all of them....
Peter
I like this, it looks really good.
Some questions -
are you using the professional version of Sketchup?
Are there any render engine built into that version?
Which render engine have you used? I haven't heard of this "Kerkythea" before...

Thanks Spyfrog!
Yes I´m using the professional version of sketchup but in this case its exactly like the free one as I exported with the Kerkythea file export plugin
and imported also into Thea with the Kerythea exporter.
it´s free so you can get it too !
I only used the pro exporter for the Vue render
Peter

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