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MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 09 Jan 2011, 04:37

Here it is, finished but still without rider:

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MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 09 Jan 2011, 06:22

Black, the everlasting lack of color suggesting awesome coolness

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 09 Jan 2011, 09:01

Have you got the latest 3D world mag ,the bike is
in it .i thought of modeling this to
by the way great work

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 09 Jan 2011, 09:05

3d world magazine? I've never read it

Is it an online magazine or something you can buy at the local supermarket?

Thanks by the way, it's not really the same as in the movie but that's because I added some of my own ideas

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 09 Jan 2011, 09:11

3d world magazine is one of the top mags for 3d modeling help tips tuts
and free textures,sounds and models.check it out online

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 09 Jan 2011, 09:11

Cool, will do

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 09 Jan 2011, 19:40

cool )
funny I found a Blender version of the bike last week and was messing with motion blur to get the light trail, kinda worked but its was a bit grainy, it needed a lot longer to render but the bike wasn't nice enough to warrant a long render time.. yours is way nicer

I can post a pic but it doesn't have the motion blur

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 09 Jan 2011, 20:44

Yeah sure! Post it

I made a light trail myself, it doesn't look quite like in the movies though. Also, I still haven't got a rider so it doesn't really make sense

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 09 Jan 2011, 22:52

The light trail looks a lot better than mine did

just rendering it again, there's some iffy geometry on the Blender one so I'm trying to hide it lol

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 09 Jan 2011, 23:12

Cool model Mikom.

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 10 Jan 2011, 00:46

here's the Blender model, it did have glowing lines but the geometry looked cr*p, I should of used mat black and I forgot to about the glow on the Jet unit, but I just set it away rendering lol, it was rendered in Thea , unbias render 50 passes,the floor grid was made with TopMod

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 10 Jan 2011, 00:50

Wow, that one is way better than mine, you got the style a lot better than mine.

you didn't render the light-trail though?

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 10 Jan 2011, 00:58

at best the light blur was never any better than this:

the car rendered in 10 minutes, the trail took 140 passes to get to that point, in hindsight it would be better to render the trail without the scene then merge them,

I much prefer your bike, I'd hate to think I was riding either of em lol, a modern race rep bike hurts enough lol

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 10 Jan 2011, 01:06

Ah ok, still, it looks pretty good

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 10 Jan 2011, 01:12

What did you use to render your bike?

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 10 Jan 2011, 01:14

The normal TrueSpace render engine, model-side. However, I am going to try Kerkythea, I have it installed but I never got round to fully testing it.

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 10 Jan 2011, 11:43

KerkyThea is really good, metropolitan light transport (MLT) is what I would use, there's no render options to set up, usually 50 passes is enough.
When using MTL or other unbias renders, save the image early on and check the file size, early on the size is quite big, as the image gets better the file size drops, when it looks ok and the file size levels out it'll be somewhere near

Looking at the Daimler bike I did years ago with KT it did need a lot longer, I think that did 47 passes
Usually emitters as a light source render faster than a point light would with MTL

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 10 Jan 2011, 11:45

Sounds good, I'll try to understand the meaning of what you just said after I started using Kerkythea but from your tone of writing I take it Kerkythea is a good choice

nigec · Post by **nigec** » 10 Jan 2011, 14:08

Its free which is always a good start

I use Thea which is Kerkythea's younger brother, but the only thing in common really is the workspace navigation is similar and the same developer.
What I always like was the ability to build a scene, you can import models, move stuff around, retexture

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 10 Jan 2011, 23:09

nigec wrote:Its free which is always a good start
I use Thea which is Kerkythea's younger brother, but the only thing in common really is the workspace navigation is similar and the same developer.
What I always like was the ability to build a scene, you can import models, move stuff around, retexture

The great thing is that once you set up the scene and rendered inside kerkythea you can export it as a kerkythea file
and import it into Thea.That renders much nicer and 5 x as fast......
For setup inside Kerkythea I made the tutorial on this site in the tutorial section !
Peter

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 10 Jan 2011, 23:11

Cool guys, I'll have a look

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 11 Jan 2011, 01:07

Ok, now I made a test render in Kerkythea. I'm not sure about all the settings yet so it probably isn't the best but please, tell me what you think.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 11 Jan 2011, 01:27

MikomDude wrote:Ok, now I made a test render in Kerkythea. I'm not sure about all the settings yet so it probably isn't the best but please, tell me what you think.

Your render lacks a bit of depth.. you need something that you can see both the shape on and the background.
I made a lightcycle and a back ground to show what I mean about it.. it was a quicky this time with a few curves inside moi 3d...

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 11 Jan 2011, 01:44

Ah, I see what you mean, I'll give it another try. Btw, how did you get the glowing effect for the grid? and is it a full model or a texture?

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 11 Jan 2011, 02:08

I will tell you how I did it ! I modeled the bike with a few curves inside moi3d and also textured it there I gave the lighted material a seperate material
I made a cube in Sketchup and made a Square in Photoshop that is white and made another square in that square that is black.
I added this texture to Sketchup face so that it was tiled and exported to Thea. same works with kerkythea.
I loaded the black and white texture into the clipping chanel and loaded red into the illuminated chanel. The same i did with the bike I loaded it into the
Thea render engine and added an illumintion texture..... i added metallic painting to the bike and chrome to the wheels.
when the render was finished with some depth of field I loaded it into Photoshop and selected the colors .. both the red for the grid and green for the wheels
and added it again to a layer on top . I then applied gaushian blur to that layer. i also made another copy of the lights from the bike to another layer on top of that and copied it 8 times on top of each other the layers were blurred with motion blur inside Photoshop... that way the lighttrail became brighter and brighter.. I deleted what was in front of the bike and left what was behind the bike.....
I then reduced the whole thing to a single layer.. thats all.. !
Peter

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 11 Jan 2011, 02:12

So what you're saying is, you rendered it in different layers and later edited those layers in and image manipulation program? Ok, I think I understand, wouldn't quite know how to do it myself though.

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 11 Jan 2011, 02:25

MikomDude wrote:So what you're saying is, you rendered it in different layers and later edited those layers in and image manipulation program? Ok, I think I understand, wouldn't quite know how to do it myself though.

No I rendered it in one picture and added the glow and the trail inside Photoshop... the glow is a blurred copy of the grid and a blurred copy of the light of the bike and the trail is a motion blurred copy of the lights....

Peter

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 11 Jan 2011, 02:26

Aw, my mistake. So you just added the effect later in photoshop? That's a lot easier than the first thing I thought it was

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 11 Jan 2011, 23:51

you might like to see these links here some realyoutube files from the guy who makes them and a lightcycle in action
vi ... 604#p23604"
Peter

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 12 Jan 2011, 01:09

Cool, so he is the guy that made the lightcycles. I should ask him for some advice

RAYMAN · Post by **RAYMAN** » 12 Jan 2011, 11:09

MikomDude wrote:Cool, so he is the guy that made the lightcycles. I should ask him for some advice

Yup thats the guy !
Peter

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 01 Aug 2011, 17:59

I made a new render of my Tron Lightcycle. Still no rider but I hope to build him to one day.

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 01 Aug 2011, 19:49

Excellent!

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 01 Aug 2011, 20:09

Thanks Steinie!

Breech Block · Post by **Breech Block** » 01 Aug 2011, 20:47

Ditto! That is a really excellent render. Nice colour choice too as opposed to the ton of bluish ones you normally see on the net.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 02 Aug 2011, 08:53

all thumbs up !

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 08 Aug 2011, 12:30

Ok, I'll be without the internet for a for a few weeks now (probably) and this is the first time in days I have had access to the internet (my parents came by with their mobile internet).

However, I've been working some more on the lightcycle:

That's it for now, I'm happy with the results so I think I can finally call this model completely finished. Hope you like it too

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 08 Aug 2011, 15:39

Absolutely great job!

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