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rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 06 Dec 2010, 20:51

Ok I am going to model this. If you have never seen these then, you might have lived in a hole in the 80's or are to young. These little guys would just go and go, especially if you had the tracked ones. The one I am doing is a half track.

Image..

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 07 Dec 2010, 13:45

Ok here is the first image. Working on the body. I find it really hard to scale this thing like the actually toy. So some parts might be bigger than scale.

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 07 Dec 2010, 19:18

looking good so far

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 07 Dec 2010, 19:50

Mikom I meant to respond to our little conversation about the new BSG. The thing I did not like about it, was that was doing this crazy religion side story, which I thoght came across as dumb. I also hated the silly little fake "cuss" words they had in thier. Makes me think of when I was eight years old making up bad words to sount cool.

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 07 Dec 2010, 20:41

Oh? Well I think (not entirely sure about this) that Glen A Larson who made the original series was the one who helped work out the whole new religion-thingy in the new series. I remember reading that he already had some interesting ideas in the original series about religion, however, I think those aren't that apparent in the original series.

About the "cuss" words, I think they just used some of the words from the original series to please the fans

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 16 Dec 2010, 23:58

Update on the stomper. I think I am gonna rework the bumper.

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 17 Dec 2010, 15:13

Looks good!

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 18 Dec 2010, 13:20

Another update showing the procession of tire and tread

froo · Post by **froo** » 18 Dec 2010, 15:11

Very nice Jeff!

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 19 Dec 2010, 02:42

Ok pretty big update. I have the back tread done now. All that is left is the AA gun on top and the details.

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 19 Dec 2010, 07:51

Nice! The tracks look good

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 19 Dec 2010, 19:55

Ok here is another updated. I added the the AA turrent and I reworked the tracks. They had way to much angle to them as compared to the toy.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 19 Dec 2010, 22:29

Looks great. Would be cool to texture it with the original camo pattern.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 19 Dec 2010, 22:39

Not sure I could do that. It would be rather diffucult. I might try..one day.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 21 Dec 2010, 04:51

Ok now all major constrution is done. Now I just have to add all the little details to it. Mostly the groves for the door and hood and hinges and view ports.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 21 Dec 2010, 07:54

nice model.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 21 Dec 2010, 08:40

Interesting model. don't forget to change the texture of the turret. Too small compared to the other texture. Thank to share.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 21 Dec 2010, 12:52

Oh yeah, I will group the model as one and reapply the camo to it.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 21 Dec 2010, 14:12

i think this wont help unless you apply new UV space. Its better to keep it seperated, just glued, not unioned. Anyway you can apply UV on group. Making the texture bigger is maybe the best solution after all.

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » 21 Dec 2010, 19:05

Very interesting to see your progress with your stomper. Great work!!!!!

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 26 Dec 2010, 12:44

Ok I am done with the truck. Now to build the scene.

MikomDude · Post by **MikomDude** » 26 Dec 2010, 21:22

The side is a bit flat isn't it? lacking some detail. Real nice work though, looking forward to the scene

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 26 Dec 2010, 21:28

You may be right. There are a few things I left off that I can add.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 29 Dec 2010, 21:36

nice job.. now place it in a shelf ;)

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 30 Dec 2010, 09:17

looks great rjeff... my kind of model

how did you make the cammo texture? might add a little more detail on the side of the truck where those semi-circles are, maybe google some real vehicle images to get an idea of what that could be and should look?

any ideas for a terrain? image of a ditch comes to mind with the stomper halfway leaping out of it, front in the air and dirt flying with guns blazing!

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 30 Dec 2010, 18:38

Thanks for the comments guys. Yeah I have somemore detail to add. There is a shovel that is on the side I will add that, as well as some more of the door and hood hinges. As for the the scene. Oh I have that all worked out in my head. That you will not see till it is all done.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 30 Dec 2010, 18:53

Good job! Looking forward to seeing the scene.

tahnoak · Post by **tahnoak** » 31 Dec 2010, 18:30

rjeff.. that is excellent. Looking forward to seeing what scene you put it in.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 14 Jan 2011, 04:51

Ok here is a test render in the room. I know the block is floating, so no need to point that out. I also have the depth of field up a bit much. Other than that what do you think?

frank · Post by **frank** » 14 Jan 2011, 05:52

I like the looks of this, rjeff!

Nice modeling on the vehicle, and the room has a "warm" feel to it. To me, the depth of field needs to be kinda high on smaller stuff like this. Kinda enhances the miniature effect.
Keep it up!

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 14 Jan 2011, 14:49

veeery nice textures and bumps. i like the lightning from side aswell. Its looking very good.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 14 Jan 2011, 15:07

Looks great! and very nice D.O.F. I agree with Frank that the D.O.F. is not to much.

Tip: place a area light inside de cube on the side with the de letter V, the part that catches the light.
Make it a yellowish colour and shadow casting off and squared fall off. This will fake a bounce effect back to the floor, therefore make it look more natural. Give it a go, you'll see what I mean.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 17 Jan 2011, 02:51

I added a toybox. I feel it gives the scene more scale.

tahnoak · Post by **tahnoak** » 21 Jan 2011, 11:02

Great textures and love the lighting

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 21 Jan 2011, 22:38

I really like the image. I think the fact that the block "floats" actually makes it look more realistic ... as in the floor is not perfectly level or the block is sitting on something else like dust or dirt.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 27 Jan 2011, 01:28

Ok got a wierd issue with this image. All of a suddenly, and there have been no changes to it, it renders black. I have no idea why. I delete the lights, add new ones and the same thing. I have even rebooted the computer. Nothing. Any ideas?

Breech Block · Post by **Breech Block** » 27 Jan 2011, 04:06

Looking good. Love the toy truck.

Sometimes a black render can relate to memory issues.

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 27 Jan 2011, 11:22

Does the block render black or the whole image? A moved or deleted texture directory will cause
weird things to happen.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:14

The whole scene. It worked fine, then it stopped. Wiered. Other stuff seems to render ok, but not the one scene I need.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:26

black render (as crash) can be an error when writting the scene on disk. if you can't repair the scene do this:
-save the objects (.cob)
-save the light
-save the the cam
-remember all setting of the render.
-turn bridge off if necessary
-disable "auto load" on preferences
-close TS
-open TS on model side with a new scene
-load all the objects, light, cam.
-save the new scene

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 30 Jan 2011, 23:06

Ok added the stomper to see how it looks in the render. The wall texture is just a place holder and the DOF did not do its thing for some reason.

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 31 Jan 2011, 00:28

Good looking model rjeff.... well done

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 31 Jan 2011, 11:14

turn the model, that it will be heading to left. Now you have to big the "shadow side". just my opinion.

tahnoak · Post by **tahnoak** » 09 Feb 2011, 09:46

Fantastic work rjeff. I love the detail in the model and the warm lighting.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 13 Feb 2011, 05:15

Small update. Wokring on an action pose for the stopmer.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 14 Feb 2011, 09:55

nice pic, nice floor bump...which renderer?

btw i would get the stomper on it or as its going down, so it can be seen better, not just only the bottom.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 14 Feb 2011, 13:29

i think it is Lightwork and hdri.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 14 Feb 2011, 20:16

Yes Marcel you are right. I think you are right as well Bitkar. I like the bump to, but I have lowered it down abit, becuase parque floors are not that rough.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 14 Feb 2011, 22:53

Looks good. I want to reach into the screen and play with that ... vrrrrr ... vrooom vrooom

I think it needs lighting that will show the tracks better.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 15 Feb 2011, 07:48

Maybe the vehicle can have some headlight on. you can create cool effect for the scene.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 15 Feb 2011, 12:46

It might could, howerver the actual toy does not have one, and most importantly I am not good with effects like that.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 25 Feb 2011, 20:18

Is this a better angle?

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 27 Feb 2011, 03:47

Ok I need some feed back here guys. I am tring to spice up the lighting abit. Now what I have at the moment is a HDRI with a spotlight for the light comming in the window. I like the effect I am getting, but I can't see to get the shadows for the window to be soft like the HDRI light is. I have it set to map, and I have the circle spread out all the way. I know there is a way to make it softer I am just not sure how.

I have some work on the window sill and a image in the window. So focus the on the light.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 27 Feb 2011, 05:13

Hi RJeff,

Try turning off transparent shadows. I don't know what to do if you need glass in the window.

Mapped shadows:
Raise map size number to remove banding.
Lower sharpness number to remove banding in soft shadow areas and keep the shadow from being wider than the object.
Raise quality number to smooth soft shadow areas.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 27 Feb 2011, 05:39

Oh I like that. I think that makes a huge difference.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 01 Mar 2011, 09:59

i like the last one... and about the lighting - you are going a good direction for sure... I think a big contrast shine and a little of bloom effect would look very good. Dont be affraid to make the contrast.

tahnoak · Post by **tahnoak** » 01 Mar 2011, 11:03

rjeff, this is awesome. The modeling is great and the lighting looks great too.

Is the HDRI light representing just the natural light within the room or that another distinct light source? The only reason I ask is it looks like the shadow going to the left off the toy cube "A" is darker than the shadow caused by the direct light source coming through the window off the toy cube "Y".

This really is excellent work!!!

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 01 Mar 2011, 12:34

Thanks guys. The HDRI is used to represent the light in the room. I am using a spotlight to represent the light in the window.

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 01 Mar 2011, 15:53

very nice indeed... which version of trueSpace are you using rjeff? I'm VERY frustrated with my 7.61b because it crashes regularly, even when I'm not even doing very complicated stuff or booleans

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 01 Mar 2011, 21:29

7.61 BETA 8.

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 04 Mar 2011, 12:29

don't you have problems with yours?

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 04 Mar 2011, 16:16

Every now and again I do. Now since I put installed Win 7 x64 and added a 2 gig of ram for a total of 4, I have had less. I did have alot of issues when I ran TS on WIN 7 x32 with 2 gig of ram.

When I start a heavy render I have to reboot the system. If I don't TS will try to render and then it will give me an error and I have to restart. Or it will start to render and then stop.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 04 Mar 2011, 16:46

i can create complex scene (as the hd animation i did) with only 2 giga ram. only some bugs that i know since a long time (6.6) and i know what to do to avoid these bug. OK i work on XP, the best OS for TS but i think you need to work on 7.6 instead 7.61, even on win 7 if you use the model side. 7.61 model side have more bugs compared to 7.6 model side (most with setting, the changes have affected the model side). 7.61 is an update for only the workspace and i think this update is very bad for the model side. Also remember "bridge off".
Just for info: a scene on model side with bridge off can be 10 time lighter than the same with bridge on! I have experienced (problem of duplication of the scene, history, and more). Also with 4 gigas on win7/7.61 you can do less than XP/7.6 and 2 gigas. and maybe less than win7/7.6 with 3 gigas.

theuns · Post by **theuns** » 04 Mar 2011, 17:39

hmmm, well I'm still on Win XP Pro SP3 but a with nice dual core 2.7GHz and 4GB ram and a 1GB Radeon 4600... mine just crash when I do booleans and complex navigation/manipulation... so i'm not sure what causes it...

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 04 Mar 2011, 18:21

Well alot of times Thenus, I find that if I try to do alot of things quickly it locks up. If I give TS a little love and not click the buttons fast it does not freeze up to bad.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 04 Mar 2011, 19:14

theuns wrote:hmmm, well I'm still on Win XP Pro SP3 but a with nice dual core 2.7GHz and 4GB ram and a 1GB Radeon 4600... mine just crash when I do booleans and complex navigation/manipulation... so i'm not sure what causes it...

too many reasons for that. OS, software, hardware (driver). i think we have all different problem. The only think i am sure is 7.6 is better than 7.61 for the model side. example: 7.61 don't save the setting of the hdri with the scene. I have no experience with win7 but i am sure to keep another computer with XP until i don't use TS. Because I know where are my bugs and avoid it. now it is natural for me. The problem is we have not necessary the same bug and it is difficult to help.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 04 Mar 2011, 19:35

Do a test with Multythreading disabled.
I had problems with my older NvideaGforce videocard, but when I disabled multythreading crashes where much less.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 04 Mar 2011, 19:44

Marcel, I don't have any issues with the HDRI staying with the scene. One thing I have had to do is reset the secen becuase sometimes it renders black.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 04 Mar 2011, 20:58

Funny, after I mention I had no issues, I turn off the bridge, like Marcel mentioned and now it will not render. I get the "thinking" icon then nada.

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 04 Mar 2011, 23:07

turn off the bridge if you have a scene loaded is not a good solution.
first close the scene, then turn bridge off, close and open TS (be sure TS start on model side view and bridge off). open a .scn scene on model side and never go to the workspace. save the scene to clean all workspace data inside. now your model side is clean. not before.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 07 Mar 2011, 13:23

again i have to mention that 7.61 works great on my pc (gigabyte mb with ati chipset, ati graphics and phenom cpu), which run WinXP x64. I dont use 7.6 anymore. Crashes veeery rarely and usually it has some good reason to crash (like rendering object with geometry flaw)

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 01 Apr 2011, 13:42

Ok taking a whole new aproach on this image. The room was not working out like I wanted, so I am taking this into Bryce, and gonna put it in a grassy yard. Here is the stomper rebuilt into bryce.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 01 Apr 2011, 18:39

why bryce? why not just simply render out from tS and get it into a real photo?

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 01 Apr 2011, 19:54

I may still do a TS render, but I have more options with Bryce as far a doing some grass and stuff. No matter what I use my lighting sucks so it either way, it will be what it will be.

rjeff · Post by **rjeff** » 16 Apr 2011, 23:57

OK here is a low quality render in Bryce. Gotta add a few more nature deatails and then I will do a high quality render.

Finis · Post by **Finis** » 18 Apr 2011, 01:48

That looks great.

v3rd3 · Post by **v3rd3** » 18 Apr 2011, 04:25

Really nice work.... keepa goin;.

bitkar · Post by **bitkar** » 18 Apr 2011, 11:54

hmmm, not bad!

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