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Does anyone who is real familar with the Caligari website have a list of URL's where all the lessons pretaining to only the Truespace 7.6 or 7.61 can be downloaded from? ( Including the forum stuff and proteam stuff etc.. )

I wanted to learn this tool and get all the videos and tutorials possible. But I thought i'd use a website downloader to do it then go back and weed through it and delete the folders that don't pretain to the Truespace 7.6 tutorials. But this isnt workling out.

First its taken me days to get a website dowbnloader configured properly to get all the links and the downloaded files right. O.k. Right now I have 80 thousand files downloaded and it takes up 15 gig of space. My Queue says I have 250 thousand files to go. (and its been running for 24 hours now) This would make the total download be over 50 gigabytes.

I am wacthing this download and it still seems like its getting things I need to have to fully learn Truespace 7.6.
For instance right now its getting :

http ://cdn.caligari.com/proteam/proTeamMultipassRendering/MR_course.zip
http ://cdn.caligari.com/proteam/proTeamVrayCourse/Resource1.rar
http ://cdn.caligari.com/proteam/proTeamTextureCreation/texture29.wmv

( I put a space bewteen the http and the : so the full url will be seen in the post, that way you can see what i'm downloading.)

Just to use as an example... See.. I never know what the website downloader might find on the website next that I might need.. But I am going to start running out of disk space and with a folder this large its impractical to back up because it won't fit on DVD.

There HAS to be an easier way to do this. If not, I may be forced to just forget about using Truespace because I don't want to try to learn something that I cannot get all the tutorials for. Yes 5 months is a long time and in thoery should be enough time to download all the lessons but if you have to weed through a site that large and find tutorials stuck off in all the little nooks and cranies (like the proteam stuff and the forum) I just don't see it happening.

Can someone give me better options?

Hi John,

The first thing to understand is that the trueSpace tutorials have developed over time and some where created with older versions of the program. I don't think there are any for the latest release (trueSpace 7.61) and precious few (if any) specifically for 7.6. This is something that the authors of some of the tutorials have been discussing here---whether to port them to this forum unchanged or whether to update them for version 7.61. But recreating a tutorial is not a trivial task and we can't expect the authors to suspend their lives and revise all their past work. They are not being paid for this.

I also doubt that there is a specific place on the Caligari website where you'll find the files organized by the version of trueSpace used to create them. So I think you're out of luck in looking for an easier, shorter way to archive all relevant material on the Caligari site for trueSpace 7.6 and 7.61.

But why let that be your primary deciding factor whether or not to learn trueSpace? The quickest way to see what's available is to surf the Caligari website the old-fashioned way: with your browser. Just click on the "Training" button at the top of the homepage and you'll see the first group of tutorials. The index is the list of icons along the left side of the page.

You'll be looking at the "Fundamental Courses" first. You'll also see buttons at the top for "Master Courses", "Older Courses" and "Tutorials". Just go down each index one by one and download the material. Most courses will have three files: (1) the course, itself, (2) the syllabus for the course, and (3) resource files for the course so you can practice what you learn. But none of them will be labeled as to which version of trueSpace was used. That isn't all "bad" because the primary objective of many tutorials is to teach the principles rather than the details.

Please don't look at this as the "end of the world" regarding the content on Caligari. As you can see we have an active forum here and we intend it to be a great place to learn about trueSpace for the forseeable future. You can ask questions here and usually get help.

Finally, perhaps my perception is skewed but 50 GB doesn't sound like much to me. I don't use any hard drive smaller than 1 TB now and almost all of my storage systems are RAID arrays with many terabytes of storage containing multiple 1 TB drives. I've seen 1 TB external drives selling for under US$100. Amazing!

Then there's Blu-ray for optical storage and one dual-layer BD disc can hold 50 GB (or two single-layer BD discs). So 50 GB doesn't sound like a lot to me---especially when you're talking about archiving an entire website---especially a deep one like Caligari.

Best regards, First Light

I'm not sure I agree with the whole website down loader concepts, but there are some tutorials I created at http://www.truesourceshop.com" under scatteredpixel, they're were made with tS7.5.

If anybody's trying to do a last-minute download of the truespace forums,
I found this software:

http://www.metaproducts.com/mp/Offline_Explorer_Pro.htm"

The 30-day demo version actually works, and it seems fast.
Supposedly it can download 500 files at a time.

The UI is decent - lots better than HTTrack.

I haven't figured out how to do pause and restart decently,
but I'm going to just let the computer work on it all day today.

Well I take it back, that Offline Explorer software is too tricksy.

Now I'm trying "Website Downloader for Windows"
butit only works on XP, not on Windows 7. Ugh!

So now I can't use both computers for this job.

Allright, Website Downloader for Windows works, yay.
Only on XP. but it works.

Tylerzambori,
You can be our official libararian!

Steinie, that would be cool. I guess it depends on how much I can manage
to download.

The TS forums are already available here though:

http://www.awportals.com/archives/truespace/"

I've been focusing my efforts just on the Tech forums and the New
User forums right now, because I figured those forums will have the
techncial Q&A's and the beginner Q&A's.

The Garage also looks pretty interesting - I guess that's where most
of the scripts get posted when they are done?

I did manage to get that software to work on the kitchen computer,
so today I can use both.

I'm off work now, so this will be easier to do.

PS another issue is that the search function doesn't work
on these offline web pages. I have to figure out how to
do some data mining.

John Phoenix, could you dig through that massive pile of data to see if you happened to grab the tS 6.6 service packs and the Conversion Pack 2.1 updates?