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pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 13 Dec 2009, 13:38

Hi all ,Meet gek ,he is a new model
i am working on ,i would like to
animate him if i can

maybe a cool name also, any ideas?

carlpatti · Post by **carlpatti** » 13 Dec 2009, 15:26

Hi pugman,

I love the gek! the name HECK comes to my mind - he looks slightly irritated and ready to take on the world...

Good luck animating him. I will watch with great interest - maybe I can learn a trick or two.

patti

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 13 Dec 2009, 16:47

The organic shape is just stunning, great work there! Let's see how you will texture it, will look really nice.
I advise you to see some Discover Channel documentaries to know more about how they move, but I know that the animation will look really funny!

Cya

weedhunter · Post by **weedhunter** » 13 Dec 2009, 16:55

nice model of the gek. do you mind show us it in a wireframe?
hope the animation goes well. Gek is a catchy word. name him Gek.

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 13 Dec 2009, 17:14

Hi , thanks for the coments ,Ithink animation will be hard
i must learn it

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 13 Dec 2009, 18:23

Yep, animations is the hardest part... Principally when it involves living things (Humans, animals and insects) but if you put hard work in it you can achieve a good animation, maybe not the best but good for a start.

Don't forget to subiscribe the animation contest! vi ... 133#p11133"

Cya

weedhunter · Post by **weedhunter** » 14 Dec 2009, 15:09

nice

what you think. adding some edge loops around the tail to have so it dont look like its "stiff" plus im sure if you add some more edge loops around the tail you have more control of it during the animation. more flexibility to the control of you model.

nice job and thank you for the wire frame view of the model.

i wanted to see the wireframe cause i wonder how you modeled it. looks very clean

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 14 Dec 2009, 16:38

HI weedhunter, i did wonder on that. Any way
here kinda green and slippery. not sure if i
like it . glued the eyes in model side now i
have thousends of faces hard to render
like this .

LeonRegis · Post by **LeonRegis** » 14 Dec 2009, 16:54

I though it would have scales, but since it's cartooned... Me and my realistic vision

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 14 Dec 2009, 17:16

gekos dont have scales as far as i know

Breech Block · Post by **Breech Block** » 14 Dec 2009, 21:46

This model is looking really good.

You are gonna have to add a lot more geometry to the elbow and knee areas though if you are thinking of animating the mesh using bones.

In addition, you want to arrange the extra geometry tighter on the inside than outside of the joints so your textures stretch accordingly.

Great project and will be watching with interest.

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 15 Dec 2009, 12:31

Hi ,can someone help me with my gek .
i have riged him but not his tail when
i move his legs the tail distorts at the same time.
could maybe someone log in to
// pugmanspace.dyndns.org/1109 that knows
about this stuff .i can load him in there
Thanks Ralph

marcel · Post by **marcel** » 15 Dec 2009, 14:58

It is an animal very fragile. look at this 3d:

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 15 Dec 2009, 15:33

thanks marcel cool vid. i dont think mine
is so fragile

i need help with the bones

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 15 Dec 2009, 17:39

If your working on the workSpace side then this might help:
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/s ... stcount=13"

If you want to see my explorations in animation:
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/s ... ule&page=2"

Also watch the mini movies in the manual by Tom G. they are very good!

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 15 Dec 2009, 20:47

Thanks Steinie , i remember you had problems
but it turned out alright in the end .
Hope i crack this

Karthogen · Post by **Karthogen** » 15 Dec 2009, 21:08

Sounds like you need to go to the weight painting on the bones themselves. The leg bones might have some vertexes from the tail that they are affecting which can lead to nasty distortion. by using the weightpaint and removing the wight form teh tail vertexes it should reduc eor eliminate the issue.

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 16 Dec 2009, 08:42

Hi here i am so far, i need to add bones for the tail.
i trided the weight paint tool no luck,ica move upper
and lower body ok arms ok ,legs still the prob
mabe bones in the tail will help when i figer out how
to add them ? any help welcome

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 16 Dec 2009, 15:32

Hi all ,i started the gek again ,a couple off
mistakes in the other on ,in mirror mode i
streched the tail and did not see that it split
in two, then glued eyes in modle side and
ended up with too many faces to repair it, shame

.
here the new gek 2pic without sds
1 pic two layers . all will be done in workspace
it is so much easer to model and edit

weedhunter · Post by **weedhunter** » 16 Dec 2009, 16:30

nice nice nice ........ nice.

did you restart the whoole model? it looks good tho,

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 16 Dec 2009, 16:42

Thanks ,no i had the head.
what do you think of the texture please
be honest am not sure

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 17 Dec 2009, 12:29

Hi , here with new texture ,i think it looks
better not 100% as the profi eyes lookbut ok,
now to work on the mouth and then animatoin.
alot of reading. all crits welcome

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 17 Dec 2009, 12:58

I like the new color pattern better.
The legs are not positioned right however that will
be corrected after posing with bones I'm sure.

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 17 Dec 2009, 15:15

Hi ,not quite sure how you mean with the legs steinie ?
another question for someone ,How do i add
the ik handles in work space side? Are the bones ok ?
Tanks for any help here

weedhunter · Post by **weedhunter** » 17 Dec 2009, 16:18

nice texture very nice. it looks like you took my advice

the sandy color is nice but i like the grayish and orange dots better.
if you want to compare the "bones" look at a picture of the back bone of a gecko and than look at the spine of a human. than compare them and us the same "bone" construction that you would use for a human.

::remember- lizards are more flexible than humans::

what im say is you need a little work on the back bone "bones".
but im sure what you have now is ok for a "simpler" animation

good luck with the animation

weedhunter · Post by **weedhunter** » 17 Dec 2009, 16:24

Steinie wrote:I like the new color pattern better.
The legs are not positioned right however that will
be corrected after posing with bones I'm sure.

look at the gecko skeleton and look at how he bones and muscles move and how the legs are positioned and than compare them to what you have.

modeling + animating anatomy is most easier if you have some knowledge of the bone and muscles move and where the are located on a real figure.

it even better if you know it all. but nobody is perfect

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 17 Dec 2009, 17:04

HI .i had a gek a few years ago .now
i have 4 bartagamens, when they feed they have this
stance. thats why he stand so

Steinie · Post by **Steinie** » 17 Dec 2009, 17:19

Yes the front two legs would be right when they raise their head to eat.
Are you sure the rear legs stick out like a table? I would picture the upper limb of the hind leg to be bent forward
and the bottom part bent back. Your Gek looks like it might be in an alert pose and not in a rested or in a walking position. The body would be way off the ground and it could barely walk in the position you show.

weedhunter · Post by **weedhunter** » 17 Dec 2009, 17:21

weedhunter wrote: what im say is you need a little work on the back bone "bones".
but im sure what you have now is ok for a "simpler" animation

good luck with the animation

pugman 1 · Post by **pugman 1** » 17 Dec 2009, 17:47

Hi stienie , you are right in what you
say but it all depends on what it is doing.
hi weedhunter i will look at the bone how they move
and ajust everything accordenly
Thanks for the comments guys great help

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