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Re: Popup Toolbars

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trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2023, 22:02
clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2023, 21:39 Installation on the Unofficial Updates v9 now requires running a UU9 Unlock script first.
Once the script is run all the installers on the website will work again.
Script is attached below for reference. It works by stopping the toolbars from being overwritten every time truespace is started.
This is totally inaccurate!

The Restore Widgets and Toolbars script looks for a few fundamental objects in Widgets and Toolbars that are needed in the Unofficial Update version 9
Maybe you should not be DELETING these few objects because the Unofficial Update version 9 needs these objects to run correctly!
Toolbars:
WorkspaceNavBAK
PEModelingToolbar
LENavigatorBar/Encapsulate

Widgets/WidgetScripts:
PE Navigation Widget
CamLightExtras
Navigation Widget
Light Navigation Widget

Preferences
AnimPref

These are your installers that I have identified and have asked you SEVERAL times in get inSync:
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... index.html "[Widget Scripts] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... inton.html "[UU4Clinton for trueSpace7.61] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... aller.html "[Batch installer for trueSpace7.61] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... tokey.html "[Animation Preference panel] is not compatible with UU9"

On top of all of the above, your installers that overwrite the Toolbars do not include the ToolbarsBACKUP that is required for your Toolbar Manager
I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script. If all those things you list are getting deleted so often they need to be refreshed on every run there may be bigger problems going on.
I don't plan to go back and recreate/update every installer. Going forward maybe I'll overwrite the ToolbarsBACKUP as well. If you can tell me why the Restore Widgets and Toolbars exists, I can write a warning for the UU9 Unlock script stating the disadvantage of removing it.
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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clintonman wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 01:54
trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2023, 22:02
clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2023, 21:39 Installation on the Unofficial Updates v9 now requires running a UU9 Unlock script first.
Once the script is run all the installers on the website will work again.
Script is attached below for reference. It works by stopping the toolbars from being overwritten every time truespace is started.
This is totally inaccurate!

The Restore Widgets and Toolbars script looks for a few fundamental objects in Widgets and Toolbars that are needed in the Unofficial Update version 9
Maybe you should not be DELETING these few objects because the Unofficial Update version 9 needs these objects to run correctly!
Toolbars:
WorkspaceNavBAK
PEModelingToolbar
LENavigatorBar/Encapsulate

Widgets/WidgetScripts:
PE Navigation Widget
CamLightExtras
Navigation Widget
Light Navigation Widget

Preferences
AnimPref

These are your installers that I have identified and have asked you SEVERAL times in get inSync:
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... index.html "[Widget Scripts] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... inton.html "[UU4Clinton for trueSpace7.61] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... aller.html "[Batch installer for trueSpace7.61] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... tokey.html "[Animation Preference panel] is not compatible with UU9"

On top of all of the above, your installers that overwrite the Toolbars do not include the ToolbarsBACKUP that is required for your Toolbar Manager
I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script. If all those things you list are getting deleted so often they need to be refreshed on every run there may be bigger problems going on.
I don't plan to go back and recreate/update every installer. Going forward maybe I'll overwrite the ToolbarsBACKUP as well. If you can tell me why the Restore Widgets and Toolbars exists, I can write a warning for the UU9 Unlock script stating the disadvantage of removing it.
If any of your installers Delete any of the items listed above, the UU9 is compromised and will not work as expected
It really is simple, do not Delete those files!

I ran a few of your installers and they worked as expected
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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trueBlue wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 02:13
clintonman wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 01:54
trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2023, 22:02
This is totally inaccurate!

The Restore Widgets and Toolbars script looks for a few fundamental objects in Widgets and Toolbars that are needed in the Unofficial Update version 9
Maybe you should not be DELETING these few objects because the Unofficial Update version 9 needs these objects to run correctly!
Toolbars:
WorkspaceNavBAK
PEModelingToolbar
LENavigatorBar/Encapsulate

Widgets/WidgetScripts:
PE Navigation Widget
CamLightExtras
Navigation Widget
Light Navigation Widget

Preferences
AnimPref

These are your installers that I have identified and have asked you SEVERAL times in get inSync:
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... index.html "[Widget Scripts] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... inton.html "[UU4Clinton for trueSpace7.61] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... aller.html "[Batch installer for trueSpace7.61] not compatible with UU9"
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... tokey.html "[Animation Preference panel] is not compatible with UU9"

On top of all of the above, your installers that overwrite the Toolbars do not include the ToolbarsBACKUP that is required for your Toolbar Manager
I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script. If all those things you list are getting deleted so often they need to be refreshed on every run there may be bigger problems going on.
I don't plan to go back and recreate/update every installer. Going forward maybe I'll overwrite the ToolbarsBACKUP as well. If you can tell me why the Restore Widgets and Toolbars exists, I can write a warning for the UU9 Unlock script stating the disadvantage of removing it.
If any of your installers Delete any of the items listed above, the UU9 is compromised and will not work as expected
It really is simple, do not Delete those files!

I ran a few of your installers and they worked as expected
"I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script."
What makes you think it's deleting all those objects you listed?

It's only deleting the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script.
How does that translate to deleting all those objects?

You list 8 objects that should not be delete. The unlock script is not deleting any of them. How can deleting the one object delete the other 8?
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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clintonman wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 02:25
trueBlue wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 02:13
clintonman wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 01:54
I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script. If all those things you list are getting deleted so often they need to be refreshed on every run there may be bigger problems going on.
I don't plan to go back and recreate/update every installer. Going forward maybe I'll overwrite the ToolbarsBACKUP as well. If you can tell me why the Restore Widgets and Toolbars exists, I can write a warning for the UU9 Unlock script stating the disadvantage of removing it.
If any of your installers Delete any of the items listed above, the UU9 is compromised and will not work as expected
It really is simple, do not Delete those files!

I ran a few of your installers and they worked as expected
"I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script."
What makes you think it's deleting all those objects you listed?

It's only deleting the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script.
How does that translate to deleting all those objects?

You list 8 objects that should not be delete. The unlock script is not deleting any of them. How can deleting the one object delete the other 8?
I am not even talking about your Delete Restore Widgets and Toolbars and overwrite the UUCommands
You just have to make sure any of your installers do not Delete any of the above items!
It is so simple!
Maybe you would better understand if, you read the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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trueBlue wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 02:37
clintonman wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 02:25
trueBlue wrote: 29 Jun 2023, 02:13
If any of your installers Delete any of the items listed above, the UU9 is compromised and will not work as expected
It really is simple, do not Delete those files!

I ran a few of your installers and they worked as expected
"I'm deleting one object, the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script."
What makes you think it's deleting all those objects you listed?

It's only deleting the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script.
How does that translate to deleting all those objects?

You list 8 objects that should not be delete. The unlock script is not deleting any of them. How can deleting the one object delete the other 8?
I am not even talking about your Delete Restore Widgets and Toolbars and overwrite the UUCommands
You just have to make sure any of your installers do not Delete any of the above items!
It is so simple!
Maybe you would better understand if, you read the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script
I did look at the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script and it doesn't look necessary, so I delete it with my script.
"It is so simple!", good. So you can easily tell me why the Restore Widgets and Toolbars exists so I can write a warning for the UU9 Unlock script stating the disadvantage of removing it. If you tell my about it maybe I'll see the what it's all about and do a complete 180.
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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I did several different ways
If any of your installers Delete any of the items listed above, the UU9 is compromised and will not work as expected
It really is simple, do not Delete those files!
Or, if any installers do, do not share them
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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I just installed your new Popup Toolbars in trueSpace that has the Unofficial Update 9 applied
Your installer deleted my Point Edit Toolbars!
This image is from your website
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Nowhere on your website mentions deleting these toolbars that are included in the Unofficial Update
Infact, your website indicates that the Point Edit Toolbars are supposedly included
Popup toolbars.png
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trueBlue wrote: 30 Jun 2023, 16:58 I just installed your new Popup Toolbars in trueSpace that has the Unofficial Update 9 applied
Your installer deleted my Point Edit Toolbars!
This image is from your website
Point Edit Toolbar.png
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Nowhere on your website mentions deleting these toolbars that are included in the Unofficial Update
Infact, your website indicates that the Point Edit Toolbars are supposedly included
Popup toolbars.png
Thanks for testing. Think I know what the problem is, won't know for sure until I check it out later. Download has been deactivated on the page.
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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Also, your installer replaces my Point Edit Toolbar's End edit gesture with the same command that is included in the Unofficial Update 9
Widgets.ActivateDefaultWidget()

Looks like your installer did not save the Widgets so, really do not understand why the above is necessary

This is exactly why I added the Restore Widgets and Toolbars script to the Unofficial Update 9
It restored my Toolbars but now I have to Reinstall the Unofficial Update 9 to get my Shortcuts back
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Re: Popup Toolbars

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Final note, I spent a lot of time Fixing the commands in the Point Edit Toolbars and Point Edit Toolbars 2 so that they did not destroy your NURBS in the Unofficial Update 9
So, unless you are fixing any of these commands that may be wrong and unknown to me, you really should not be Deleting them!

According to your website notes:
June 28, 2023
add camera options to the view toolbar
add new light toolbar

Seems like you should be able to add the needed items to the existing toolbars verses Deleting and Replacing
These have been added to the UU9(S) on 6/29/2023
Also, your Light Toolbar commands are using a Widget Function Set that does not exist in the UU9(S)
Also, removing Shortcuts should be optional
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