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bitkar wrote: 11 May 2021, 18:31what does it take to become a member of a jury?
Jury service is a duty required of citizens. In New Mexico jury eligibility requires:
- A citizen of the United States
- At least eighteen years of age
- A resident of New Mexico and of the county where the jury will convene
- A felon can't be on a jury unless he has completed all conditions of his sentence

Records such as voter registration, driver's licenses, and tax payers are used to select potential jurors who meet the above qualifications. Those receive a summons to jury duty. They are divided into several pools, groups, and provided the dates when there might be a trial for their pool.

Shortly before a trial you can find out if it is canceled. If it is on you must report for voir dire. The lawyers and judge question the jurors, under oath, to pick ones suitable for that trial. The questioning is usually related to ability to be impartial and disqualifications such as knowing the defendant, lawyers, witnesses, and sometimes knowledge of the case from news or work.

The sixth amendment to the Constitution secures the right to trial by jury. The fifth amendment requires grand jury indictment.
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that is something totally off my mind as a europian :) very interesting. I will maybe find something about it on youtube or somewhere to understand how it works more deeply. Those requirenments are not really strict to me for ppl that are about to influence others lives that way.
Is there some test to measure IQ or knowledge of law???
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No the same system is part of our juridical system too!
Its called Schöffen here..but its not that common that people are selected....! Many people also have reasons not to be called in because they are undisposable for the job!
Same as for military service! If someone only served for 6 months they could call you in for 14 day practice! That can be called off up till the age of 50 I think!

czech translation is porotci....?
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@Rayman IDK but I'll bet that different European countries have different ways of doing those things. The Czech way may be different than the Austrian way. Different states have different ways here as do federal courts.

@Bitkar It does seem lax but in the trials I've been on the jurors were adequate. Could be better but adequate is good enough. I'd like to see stricter requirements. The whole system eliminates many who shouldn't be jurors but it would be good to be more measurable and less subjective. Many who are in jury pools are never chosen to be on a trial. Many are permanently excused for mental illness or various hardships. IQ: I'm poor so I meet the people on the lower part of the bell curve. Not able. They often eliminate themselves with bad behavior or are excluded in voir dire. There used to be school classes about citizenship and how our system works. Now school is America bad, marx good, and if you can read you're a white supremacist. So yes, many jurors are ignorant about juries, law, etc. The judge does give instructions about the laws specific to the case and the jury's responsibilities. There are various ways a defendant can appeal or challenge the results of a trial.

The ideals and theory of American government are different than most other places. That is more important than the functional details to understand how juries, laws, rights, etc. work here. We have strayed far due to wickedness but it is still mostly based on the ideals of the founders. Juries are part of "by the people" in "of, by, and for the people". To give one of our own to the nasty clutches of government a grand jury (similar selection process) must determine if the government's case against the accused merits further action (indictment). If indicted then a jury of his peers will determine if he is guilty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaMwhfP2Ol8

Maybe I'll blog about my experiences on juries but no one looks at that so not.
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Finis wrote: 13 May 2021, 15:31There used to be school classes about citizenship and how our system works. Now school is America bad, marx good, and if you can read you're a white supremacist. So yes, many jurors are ignorant about juries, law, etc. The judge does give instructions about the laws specific to the case and the jury's responsibilities. There are various ways a defendant can appeal or challenge the results of a trial.

The ideals and theory of American government are different than most other places. That is more important than the functional details to understand how juries, laws, rights, etc. work here. We have strayed far due to wickedness but it is still mostly based on the ideals of the founders.
Well that must have greatly changed!
Went to an American school from 1968-1973....and..well it was after Hoovers time..and the rallye but it was considered out of any disagreement that communism was "BAD" back then..and it was the flower power..pro Kennedy anti Nixon time! We used to see people throw darts at Nixon pics in 1972 in Boston Mass!
The nation is divided...yes...but Marx? woooooh!:D
Now we were a democrate(Kennedy) founded school with pretty hefty tuition fees....a half private school..but hey...communism..NO WAY! That probably got you busted....:roll:
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Finis wrote: 13 May 2021, 15:31 Now school is America bad, marx good, and if you can read you're a white supremacist.
I watch USA, the elections, the news, the sway towards socialism, cancel culture and communism. Its scary. I hope USA will recover and dont have to go the same path we went after WW2. For us its even more scary, coz we see the paralels - ppl losing job because of their opinions and such.
More scary for me is to see that in western europe and EU itself. Past leader of EU commision (mr. Junker) was in a German city to reveal statue of Marx!
Finis wrote: 13 May 2021, 15:31 We have strayed far due to wickedness but it is still mostly based on the ideals of the founders. Juries are part of "by the people" in "of, by, and for the people". To give one of our own to the nasty clutches of government a grand jury (similar selection process) must determine if the government's case against the accused merits further action (indictment). If indicted then a jury of his peers will determine if he is guilty.
I kinda like that. I see how this can be really useful. In CZ there is only a judge and a system of courts. Ofc if you dont agree with the judge you can go to higher instance of court. No jury here. Definatly no public with no formal law education to judge someone.
On one hand its nice and strong system and on the other hand i find it scary that some "Joe from a cabin at the forest" would influence my life to judge my guilt. But like you said, if there is some natural selection to that and the jurers are mostly fine ppl, and when i can dispute the jury its good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaMwhfP2Ol8
- thanks for this video, i will see that tomorow.

It would be fine to read here some interesting cases maybe :) something short about them. I would read that.

@Rayman: yes - porotce (single) porotci (plural) ... porota (jury)
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Last jury duty thing done today. Defendant accused of distributing methamphetamine and possession of marijuana. I may be wrong but I think pot is legal now in my state. It was not at the time of the alleged crime. I was not chosen for the trial. It will be two or three years before I'm summoned again.

The electric power company sent a notice that they will stop getting power (114 mega watts) from the Palo Verde nuclear plant. Now we'll get power from unicorn farts and fairy dreams. I look forward to higher prices and unreliable power. Maybe I'll get a UPS for my computer.

The Memorial Day Fly In for hang gliders is canceled due to the road being nearly impassable. No maintenance for a long time. Fun for us drivers but only a few trucks could get up there now. If many pilots show up, plus spectators, there wouldn't be enough transportation. Much of it is rough but there are just two maybe three spots that require a super macho truck plus skill to pass. I'll suggest that the local pilots organize a repair crew, fix the worst parts, and have the fly in later.
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Unicorn fart is the new green deal!
It could also be a pot plant that makes your house nice warm and cosy....so yes things go round nowadays !
They call it joint venture I think! :lol: :mrgreen: :geek:
As long as it is legal..... :lol: :bananacool2:
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in New Mexico, there is alot of sun for sure. I would invest in solar panels on the roof and some battery. Maybe there will be some to buy from old battery EVs. That would provide at least some of electricity if there is a problem. And if the electricity is expensive, you dont buy as much. Sure, it will cost something, but in the long run...
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Who speaks Swedish? Mikom? What does she say at 13:38? Sounds like "fee" "fav". What's that in English?
https://youtu.be/yeLlHsFkM-U?t=804

Famous people all over my town. I saw Angela Merkel working at WalMart. Former vice president Mike Pence was in line for customer service at a grocery store. David Horowitz was at a coffee shop. What? Just a resemblance?
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