Final trueSpace7.61 Beta 8 Std Unofficial Update

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Okay
From the pictures you are posting, it does not look like it is working very well for you
I do not know anything about your VM
trueSpace should work on a normal XP OS that has DirectX 9c and a decent Video card
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I'm a linux user, VM's have 3D support via their guest drivers, it works well enough.
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garcia wrote: 25 Jan 2023, 23:11 I'm a linux user, VM's have 3D support via their guest drivers, it works well enough.
Okay, here is a tip when you change Layouts
Right click Toolbars
Reset All Toolbars.png
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trueBlue wrote: 26 Jan 2023, 01:38
garcia wrote: 25 Jan 2023, 23:11 I'm a linux user, VM's have 3D support via their guest drivers, it works well enough.
Okay, here is a tip when you change Layouts
Right click Toolbars
Reset All Toolbars.png
Thanks for that :)

I was looking at the older version and it has a lot of noob/help features...
Icon helper
icon finder
the Tooltip bar (next to File, Help menu)

Is there anything like the above in rosetta or can be migrated to rossetta?

There is also a lot more documentation and videos for the older version and not so much for the newer version... so any help would really be appreciated!
gS_help.chm (gamespace from MS Legacy) is also a great resource!
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Nothing like that in trueSpace7.61 Beta 8 Std 'Rosetta'
It is the only version that does not include a Bridge to Model, which is an updated version of trueSpace6.6

Here is a Link that should give you a better understanding:
viewtopic.php?p=2043#p2043

This forum has a wealth of information that you can search and read.
You could also start your own thread and ask questions.

This thread is for the trueSpace7.61 Beta 8 Std Unofficial Update
Currently, the Unofficial Update version 9 is in a testing phase and will soon replace the Unofficial Update version 8
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I get all that, that's my point, Rosetta isn't beginner friendly, and the unofficial updates changing things, kinda makes it harder, when it's not documented in your own doc... I get it's a WIP but adding something in app would help beginners adopting Rosetta over the older versions.
Your the maintainer of the UU, just giving some feedback.


std I know you mean standalone (Rosetta) but std is often abbreviated to standard, ie the full version.... I got caught in that at the start, so I'll call it Rosetta to avoid confusion :mrgreen:

Edit: std is what caligari called the installer and install folder for rosetta, if you know that then it makes more sense, but if not it's not clear.
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garcia wrote: 26 Jan 2023, 22:12 I get all that, that's my point, Rosetta isn't beginner friendly, and the unofficial updates changing things, kinda makes it harder, when it's not documented in your own doc... I get it's a WIP but adding something in app would help beginners adopting Rosetta over the older versions.
Your the maintainer of the UU, just giving some feedback.


std I know you mean standalone (Rosetta) but std is often abbreviated to standard, ie the full version.... I got caught in that at the start, so I'll call it Rosetta to avoid confusion :mrgreen:

Edit: std is what caligari called the installer and install folder for rosetta, if you know that then it makes more sense, but if not it's not clear.
garcia wrote: ↑
unofficial updates changing things
Kind of insulting, really!
I would not say that things were changed but rather a lot of things were FIXED and thanks to Clinton, a lot of great tools were added
You do not have install the Unofficial Update(s)

I think you aleady have the UU Artist Guide

You can read the text file that is included with the updates
C:\trueSpace761Std\trueSpace Beta 7.61 Standalone Unofficial Update.txt

The original trueSpace7.61Std Beta 8 'Rosetta' has a PDFMan Help icon that never worked that was supposed to open the ts76_manual.html
The original trueSpace7.61 Beta 8 has the same icon that does work if you install the tS76PDF.exe and tS76Video.exe files
Most of the information about Workspace in these help files are the same for Rosetta and trueSpace7.61 Beta 8 with the exception of the Bridge and Model

All Unofficial Updates version 8 & 9 include a YafaRaytS v0.9.7 Help file that you can open from the YafaRay4tS toolbar
Also includes a C:\trueSpace761Std\Scripts\tS761 Workspace Shortcut List.rtf
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I'm not here to insult anyone. i'm new and obviously ignorant, but I do read and search the doc's and manuals (joining the PDF's into one large one via pdfunite helps a lot)... it's just not an intuitive help system, compared to the old TS.... IMO anyway.

I did search for toolbar and reset in your UU txt file when I got stuck with the white toolbars, but didn't find mention your reset toolbar tip, I don't doubt it's there tho. :)
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They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
I like to watch videos and do courses.
http://clintons3d.com/tutorials/caligari.html
Unfortunately, they are outdated but still very useful.
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yes very helpful, thanks :)
Especially for the workspace side
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